Top law enforcement officials beg legislators not to override concealed carry veto

[thperez1972]

Top law enforcement officials beg legislators not to override concealed carry veto
https://www.wbrz.com/news/top-law-e...islators-not-to-override-concealed-carry-veto

"We are not opposed to concealed carry. We are opposed to concealed carry without education and knowledge of when, where, why and how you can use this firearm," said Fabian Blache Sr., executive director of the Chiefs of Police Association.

They sure have a pretty high opinion of the information presented in the concealed carry classes.

 

[lesgeaux]

What is that old addage?

If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

If they care so much, they should stepup and teach it to the public, like other states' sheriffs do.

To bad they are given a platform and no equal pushback is allowed on the tv stations.

 

[340six]

I saw that on the 4pm news. And posted in the other thread. The sheriff's met and Sheriff Webre stated that it would decriminalize the crime of illegal carry essentially making a crime legal.

 

[iomg8]

remember laws like this (along with tint laws, and hanging things on your rearview mirrors) is how they can arrest you to harass you.

 

[Bigchillin83]

at the end of the day why would LE want to stop legally able citizens from legally conceal carry... Is it because they cant uphold the law already and stop the illegals from carrying... good gotta suffer for the bad i guess...

 

[Bigchillin83]

I saw that on the 4pm news. And posted in the other thread. The sheriff's met and Sheriff Webre stated that it would decriminalize the crime of illegal carry essentially making a crime legal.

decriminalize the crime of illegal carry essentially making a crime legal...

isnt that what we are trying to do lol... change it to legally conceal carry so it won't be illegal to carry without permit...

 

[Bigchillin83]

thats like saying....



ME Top law enforcement official, me say theres to many people driving drunk after dark.. so now nobody can drive after dark.. even the sober people... good done deal

 

[Xeon64]

I am starting to lean back to not liking law enforcement again after this. Back the Blue is about to go. Corrupt ass hats that like to oppress the law abiding. You people on here saying law enforcement won't enforce liberal guns laws, well look at this and take a deep long thought.

 

[flyboy]

Give this a thought. Permit or no permit per law, what is the difference? Either way, the person is carrying. Maybe legal, maybe illegal but still carrying, especially the thugs and fellons that should not be able to even own/posess a firearm. I think they are scared and they should be.

 

[ozarkpugs]

Only SOME cops are against us the rest just don't stand up with us because they fear they may loose their jobs . Kinda ironic isn't it , those our taxes pay to protect our rights by upholding the constitution refrain from protecting our rights and sometimes arrest us for exercising those rights because that is what they are paid to do .

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[Jstudz220]

I am starting to lean back to not liking law enforcement again after this. Back the Blue is about to go. Corrupt ass hats that like to oppress the law abiding. You people on here saying law enforcement won't enforce liberal guns laws, well look at this and take a deep long thought.

that feeling seems to be pretty strong throughout the 2A community right now. I’ve heard it many of times this week alone and I’d be lying if I said I’m not starting to feel that way myself. I’ve said it many of times but anyone who believes a cop won’t enforce the law regardless if they agree with it or not are just being naive.

 

[340six]

And the winner is Edwards
https://www.wafb.com/2021/07/08/president-biden-appoints-gov-edwards-council-governors/
President Biden appoints Gov. Edwards to Council of Governors

 

[Fordfella]

I am starting to lean back to not liking law enforcement again after this. Back the Blue is about to go. Corrupt ass hats that like to oppress the law abiding. You people on here saying law enforcement won't enforce liberal guns laws, well look at this and take a deep long thought.

I have to agree with you. Taxpayers aren't getting the police protection they are paying for, expect, and deserve. If things don't turn around soon, I fear there will be another "Defund the Police" movement from law abiding taxpayers.

 

[DAVE_M]

Education… lol

The CHP requirements are pitiful.

 

[thperez1972]

I am starting to lean back to not liking law enforcement again after this. Back the Blue is about to go. Corrupt ass hats that like to oppress the law abiding. You people on here saying law enforcement won't enforce liberal guns laws, well look at this and take a deep long thought.

You should realize that not all law enforcement agrees with every position their chief/sheriff holds. And with respect to law enforcement enforcing or not enforcing certain laws, patrol cops are given some discretion in what actions they take. In general, you're not going to hear about the individual officer's use of discretion on each call. You're only going to hear about the official position given by the top rank.

 

[Jstudz220]

You should realize that not all law enforcement agrees with every position their chief/sheriff holds. And with respect to law enforcement enforcing or not enforcing certain laws, patrol cops are given some discretion in what actions they take. In general, you're not going to hear about the individual officer's use of discretion on each call. You're only going to hear about the official position given by the top rank.

regardless if they agree or not they will following orders. I really doubt that any of the sheriffs speaking would leave it up to the officers discretion to arrest or not arrest someone for CC. You are also as a cop a direct reflection of your department and superiors.

 

[southerncanuck]

at the end of the day why would LE want to stop legally able citizens from legally conceal carry... Is it because they cant uphold the law already and stop the illegals from carrying... good gotta suffer for the bad i guess...

Occasionally, "legally able" crosses paths with "dumb as a sack of rocks" and/or "doesn't understand the law" and/or "mentally unhinged" and a handful of folks might not want some hee-haw getting jumpy at the mall with his shiny new peashooter with zero understanding of legalities and responsibilities of carrying a deadly weapon, because they'd be more of a liability to the rest of us than anything else. Basic training and competence testing unfortunately refers to the inconvenient part of everyone's favorite amendment, "well-regulated."

Maybe should probably give cars to everyone without a driver's test as well once they turn 16?

 

[Bigchillin83]

"Maybe should probably give cars to everyone without a driver's test as well once they turn 16?"

what test did you have to take when you turned 18 and walked into the store and bought your first long gun ??? or 21 and bought your first pistol.. did you have to take a test to use it, buy bullets, open carry it? did you have to pay a fee to a state agency to give you permision to open carry it? Oh im, not doubting that some people need some training.. but i am doubting a form of gov. allowing all of the above but when you put it inside your pocket your a criminal without state required paperwork and fees/taxs to allow you to do so

 

[Jstudz220]

Occasionally, "legally able" crosses paths with "dumb as a sack of rocks" and/or "doesn't understand the law" and/or "mentally unhinged" and a handful of folks might not want some hee-haw getting jumpy at the mall with his shiny new peashooter with zero understanding of legalities and responsibilities of carrying a deadly weapon, because they'd be more of a liability to the rest of us than anything else. Basic training and competence testing unfortunately refers to the inconvenient part of everyone's favorite amendment, "well-regulated."

Maybe should probably give cars to everyone without a driver's test as well once they turn 16?

how does it even remotely make sense to allow the same government that this very militia may have to form for to allow them to make rules about what we can should or need to do?
I’m not disagreeing whatsoever about people needing training but that’s not something we should let the government control.

 

[LACamper]

There was a time when kids received firearms training through the NRA at school. Most kids also had a BB gun and learned the basics of gun handling. If we're going to allow everyone to CCW then a bit of gun handling training could be taught in school. At least teach the 4 basic safety rules and stress the need for training.

Local police could offer a free gun safety class to the local populations. Not to mention set up more local ranges- let people shoot at a nearby dump, etc.

Finally, all those CCW instructors are going to have to start earning their customers. Seems like a good time for an advertising blitz...