LSU student murdered in her car in Baton Rouge.

[John_]

student murdered in BR.

WAFB report

Leaving a local hot spot in the early hours of the morning and stopped at a railroad crossing in downtown BR.

 

[AustinBR]

So freakin' sad.

I hope they feed whoever did this to ants.

 

[Peacemaker]

A real shame. I would seriously doubt this was random. Would have to think someone was trying to make it appear that way.

Then again, right now with so much hate in the world, and fewer and fewer having coping skills, more road rage shootings are occurring. Shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.

 

[AustinBR]

A real shame. I would seriously doubt this was random. Would have to think someone was trying to make it appear that way.

Then again, right now with so much hate in the world, and fewer and fewer having coping skills, more road rage shootings are occurring. Shouldn't be too difficult to figure out.

Pure speculation here, but it could be some stupid gang initiation thing.

Hopefully a local business captured it. This is a good reason for everyone to have a dash cam that records the whole time the vehicle is turned on.

 

[Cheesy Lasagna]

So freakin' sad.

I hope they feed whoever did this to ants.

Well spoken.

 

[sawgrass]

Mistaken identity?

 

[John_]

So freakin' sad.

I hope they feed whoever did this to ants.

Agreed. What did she do wrong? Absolutely nothing. The simple fact is in NOLA or BR, you are not safe after 10:00 PM on the streets. Probably a car jacking or robbery attempt and when she tried to turn around, they shot her to death. Low life scum imo.

I mean its either gang affiliated, or a car jacking/robbery attempt, or a mad/jealous former BF (pretty low on the list).

 

[Manimal]

People will murder for fun in certain areas of this city, and that is one. There have been numerous murders within 1 block of that murder over the last 5-10 years.

The BRPD is 150+ officers short, recruitment is awful, recruiting standards are lowered repeatedly and they still cant get decent applicants, there are hundreds of unsolved murders in this city with no suspects, there are over 300 murder suspects on the streets post-bail and awaiting trial.

There was a speed trap on LSU Avenue the other day. I doubt they planned that as a priority activity, but someone did. I guess we all have our priorities, and do what we're told by the people that keep us paid. I have never seen a speed trap by that murder scene though. Go figure.

 

[Peacemaker]

I was thinking a jilted ex-boyfriend. It's not that it couldn't be a random shooting, but it just seems that generally doesn't happen to someone like that. It brings too much heat. Her father must have means, and I'm sure will have many connected friends in the right places.

It just seems like she is an unlikely victim of a random shooting.

 

[John_]

People will murder for fun in certain areas of this city, and that is one. There have been numerous murders within 1 block of that murder over the last 5-10 years.

The BRPD is 150+ officers short, recruitment is awful, recruiting standards are lowered repeatedly and they still cant get decent applicants, there are hundreds of unsolved murders in this city with no suspects, there are over 300 murder suspects on the streets post-bail and awaiting trial.

No doubt, sounds just like NO. I don't follow BR news regularly, but I do in NO, and 95% of all crime is committed by blacks. The most dangerous thing for a black male in NO is another black male. It damned sure isn't the cops. BLM is a joke.

 

[AustinBR]

People will murder for fun in certain areas of this city, and that is one. There have been numerous murders within 1 block of that murder over the last 5-10 years.

The BRPD is 150+ officers short, recruitment is awful, recruiting standards are lowered repeatedly and they still cant get decent applicants, there are hundreds of unsolved murders in this city with no suspects, there are over 300 murder suspects on the streets post-bail and awaiting trial.

There was a speed trap on LSU Avenue the other day. I doubt they planned that as a priority activity, but someone did. I guess we all have our priorities, and do what we're told by the people that keep us paid. I have never seen a speed trap by that murder scene though. Go figure.

I mean it's just hard to make a case for why someone would want to start a career with a LE agency in Louisiana. Local officials have repeatedly made it clear that they do not (consistently) stand behind law enforcement.

Base pay for BRPD is around $36k per year (without college degree) to $45k (with degree).

Starting pay for Dallas PD is $64k. College degree adds a bit more to that.

If you're a young dude without a family, it make more sense to move to Dallas or somewhere else to make $30k more per year AND to live in a place that supports your job.

Regarding the speed trap over by LSU...a lot of college students walk/run around there and the speed trap is right by the crosswalk typically. Folks often do 20-30mph over the speed limit there, especially if they're running late to class. I have no problem with cops being there all the time.

 

[AustinBR]

No doubt, sounds just like NO. I don't follow BR news regularly, but I do in NO, and 95% of all crime is committed by blacks. The most dangerous thing for a black male in NO is another black male. It damned sure isn't the cops. BLM is a joke.

There is no reason to bring race into this. Let's not go there, please.

 

[Manimal]

I mean it's just hard to make a case for why someone would want to start a career with a LE agency in Louisiana. Local officials have repeatedly made it clear that they do not (consistently) stand behind law enforcement.

Base pay for BRPD is around $36k per year (without college degree) to $45k (with degree).

Starting pay for Dallas PD is $64k. College degree adds a bit more to that.

If you're a young dude without a family, it make more sense to move to Dallas or somewhere else to make $30k more per year AND to live in a place that supports your job.

Regarding the speed trap over by LSU...a lot of college students walk/run around there and the speed trap is right by the crosswalk typically. Folks often do 20-30mph over the speed limit there, especially if they're running late to class. I have no problem with cops being there all the time.

Ask the families on St. Rose St. North of Gov. St. where they want the Police to be. More people are murdered/raped/robbed within 10 blocks of that street, in a year, than people hit at crosswalks throughout the entire city (Source: My Butt, but I'd gamble $5 on it at a Casino).

Being that people often do what you say, and there are rarely ever cops there and much more rarely a pedestrian struck, it seems like it's not too pressing of an issue. People knock the Tiger statue down about 15:1 vs hitting pedestrians, and it doesn't have legs to get out of the way.

You are right about most of the other stuff, though police pay may be $36k if all they do is show up and go home. Extra duty and OT is where the money is at, an there is lots to be had in this city. I have not known any BR police officers that actually have/had financial hardship due to lack of pay. They all have/had nice cars and houses if they are on for more than a couple of years.

The #1 Crime Prevention tool is the Presence of Risk/Danger. Since our police departments and democrat leaders/bill cassidy will not back Constitutional Carry in Louisiana, to make every person a Risk/Danger to those who threaten them, the next best thing is to have some form of Presence in High Risk/Danger areas, by those who mitigate Risk/Danger. Criminals rarely intentionally seek Dangerous targets.

 

[AustinBR]

Ask the families on St. Rose St. North of Gov. St. where they want the Police to be. More people are murdered/raped/robbed within 10 blocks of that street, in a year, than people hit at crosswalks throughout the entire city (Source: My Butt, but I'd gamble $5 on it at a Casino).

Being that people often do what you say, and there are rarely ever cops there and much more rarely a pedestrian struck, it seems like it's not too pressing of an issue. People knock the Tiger statue down about 15:1 vs hitting pedestrians, and it doesn't have legs to get out of the way.

You are right about most of the other stuff, though police pay may be $36k if all they do is show up and go home. Extra duty and OT is where the money is at, an there is lots to be had in this city. I have not known any BR police officers that actually have/had financial hardship due to lack of pay. They all have/had nice cars and houses if they are on for more than a couple of years.

The #1 Crime Prevention tool is the Presence of Risk/Danger. Since our police departments and democrat leaders/bill cassidy will not back Constitutional Carry in Louisiana, to make every person a Risk/Danger to those who threaten them, the next best thing is to have some form of Presence in High Risk/Danger areas, by those who mitigate Risk/Danger. Criminals rarely intentionally seek Dangerous targets.

Devils advocate, but a lot of the times the PD doing the speed enforcement over by LSU is LSU PD and not BRPD.

Yeah, it'd be ideal to put officers in all of the high-crime areas all the time, but it's just not feasible with limited resources.

Plus, BRPD and EBRSO both have SCAT/Gang Units that hang out in gang-ridden areas, yet they still commit crimes even with the heavy police presence.

Re: Pay - The officers in Dallas PD and other jurisdictions can also work extra duty. Our officers shouldn't have to work 90 hour weeks just to make ends meet. BRPD would likely be able to acquire and retain talent if they paid more and had the backing of the local .gov.

 

[Manimal]

Devils advocate, but a lot of the times the PD doing the speed enforcement over by LSU is LSU PD and not BRPD.

Yeah, it'd be ideal to put officers in all of the high-crime areas all the time, but it's just not feasible with limited resources.



Re: Pay - The officers in Dallas PD and other jurisdictions can also work extra duty. Our officers shouldn't have to work 90 hour weeks just to make ends meet. BRPD would likely be able to acquire and retain talent if they paid more and had the backing of the local .gov.

90hr work week, even at base pay, is well over "making ends meet." In fact it puts them in the $75k category, which means they are almost completely unphased by economic trends, and things like inflation and cost of living increases. I'm not saying they shouldn't make that kind of money, just saying that it's a victim and scapegoat argument used by people to make excuses for poorly run administrations and departments.

Have you ever been in those neighborhoods? I thought you were a cop, maybe not. Undercover cops do not count towards Risk/Danger "Presence" to any benefit of a community. They are not seen as threat mitigators, they are seen as threat proponents (one of the crew) until the real threats are dealt with. "Heavy presence" is quite subjective. I've worked and volunteered in some of the worst neighborhoods in this city an have *never* seen a Gang Unit acting as a mitigation unit, only enforcement and rarely, nor have any of the people I have talked to about crime *ever* mentioned any kind of threat mitigation due to those units, in the manner they are used. I know they are hard workers and they are there, but they are ultimately ineffective and the statistics prove it. (Gang initiations often = Murder, do the undercovers participate...or is the act of murder the Gang's way of making sure the new recruit is not a cop? Gang units and Narcs quite possibly increase the rate of murder in those communities, simply by their methods of infiltration and policing.)

People are too afraid of Individual Liberty to do things that would actually lower crimes, and reduce gangs and human trafficking.

 

[AustinBR]

90hr work week, even at base pay, is well over "making ends meet." In fact it puts them in the $75k category, which means they are almost completely unphased by economic trends, and things like inflation and cost of living increases. I'm not saying they shouldn't make that kind of money, just saying that it's a victim and scapegoat argument used by people to make excuses for poorly run administrations and departments.

Have you ever been in those neighborhoods? I thought you were a cop, maybe not. Undercover cops do not count towards Risk/Danger "Presence" to any benefit of a community. They are not seen as threat mitigators, they are seen as threat proponents (one of the crew) until the real threats are dealt with. "Heavy presence" is quite subjective. I've worked and volunteered in some of the worst neighborhoods in this city an have *never* seen a Gang Unit acting as a mitigation unit, only enforcement and rarely, nor have any of the people I have talked to about crime *ever* mentioned any kind of threat mitigation due to those units, in the manner they are used. I know they are hard workers and they are there, but they are ultimately ineffective and the statistics prove it. (Gang initiations often = Murder, do the undercovers participate...or is the act of murder the Gang's way of making sure the new recruit is not a cop? Gang units and Narcs quite possibly increase the rate of murder in those communities, simply by their methods of infiltration and policing.)

People are too afraid of Individual Liberty to do things that would actually lower crimes, and reduce gangs and human trafficking.

The problem is that our officers have to work extra hours to make the same amount that other departments are paying. They are grossly underpaid for what they have to deal with in Louisiana (and BR, specifically). Having to work extra hours is a burden and can absolutely set them up to fail when they're doing their regular LE work due to lack of sleep and being overworked.

What are people afraid of that would lower crimes?

And no, I am not a cop.

 

[Manimal]

Deschedule Cannabis (Cannabis as Schedule 1 drives Meth/Hard Drug use because they leave the system quickly), Legalize it (Medical alone further drives the Black Market, Cannabis Black Market is still the primary motivator for large scale drug distribution and related violence.), Decriminalize Prostitution and make a legal registry (Las Vegas style, makes human trafficking more challenging for scumbags by allowing individuals to legally perform their chosen business, that is every bit as old as any other business, regardless of moral challenges/depravity), Legalize/Protect Constitutional Carry, affirm Right to Protect/No Retreat doctrine.

Any one of those, or all of them, would reduce violent crime and reduce the power of gangs.

 

[sawgrass]

Agreed. What did she do wrong? Absolutely nothing. The simple fact is in NOLA or BR, you are not safe after 10:00 PM on the streets. Probably a car jacking or robbery attempt and when she tried to turn around, they shot her to death. Low life scum imo.

I mean its either gang affiliated, or a car jacking/robbery attempt, or a mad/jealous former BF (pretty low on the list).

I just read (today) that NOLA has surpassed St. Louis for the title, murder capital of America. Homicides up 141% compared to recent years.

 

[John_]

Who in their right mind would sign up to be a cop in BR or NOLA when you can work in Dallas for $26k more per year starting pay? You would have to be stupid or something. I mean that is huge!

 

[John_]

More info on this shooting from her father. I cannot imagine the family's heartache and grief. https://nypost.com/2022/09/20/fathe...Ax9ZNOvhP7ckj0YSdBi3cg3K9y0g30aaW2FIxTnWJlbsA