LSP seize 64 unlawful pistols during Mardi Gras
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70mikenike70
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Clearly you haven’t read the constitution…. Shall not be infringed does not make someone a criminal because they are practicing their God given rights. Now don’t get me wrong, there are criminals and bad people. I’m not one of them! Glock is faster than 911 all day long! I’m sure these people were acting suspicious or doing something wrong to be stopped and searched or flat out arrested for doing something wrong. But just because you are legally concealing a weapon at a parade doesn’t make you a criminal. The normal citizen carrying isn’t doing anything to get searched, but if they do it’s just a ticket. They aren’t going to arrest you just for having a concealed weapon. We need to band together as a nation and stop all these gun laws that are ridiculous. A law abiding citizen is faster than waiting for a cop. Criminals don’t abide by the law!!! It’s us law abiding citizens that have to suffer because of stupid people. You can’t bring your gun here, you cant carry there, you are a criminal if you do that….. It just causes division and violence. But don’t get it twisted, all laws are an infringement! It’s a never winning situation….
70mikenike70
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lol that’s like a car pinning you against the wall lol. You ain’t moving from that! I wouldn’t be dumb enough to mess with those horses lol.
70mikenike70
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Y’all are killing me lol…. You know what I meant lol…. I still say the best picture is of Clay Higgins with all the different agencies behind him.There are ample Supreme Court rulings that would disagree with you.
Do you think you should be allowed to carry your concealed firearm on an airplane? Do you think that anyone, permit or no permit, should be allowed to carry firearms on airplanes?
I believe you. I don't think you're a bad person, I just think you have a borderline sovereign citizen view on the law as it's written.
There is no such thing as "legally concealing a weapon at a parade" in the state of Louisiana. Carrying at a parade is illegal. Didn't we just go over this?
Printing with what's obviously a gun is sufficient to get searched if you're carrying at a parade. They'll probably take your gun. Maybe you don't get arrested, but it's probably likely....
Agreed. But breaking the law isn't the way to change the law. That requires contacting your elected officials.
70mikenike70
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No not a sovereign citizen wacko lol. I completely abide by the law lol. I just think the laws are ridiculous to a point. I agree for safety reasons people shouldn’t carry a loaded weapon in the cabin of a plane. That’s why they check them in and they go in the belly of a plane. But once again I would be putting my life in the hands of a sub par law enforcement officer to protect me. I say sub par because I would feel more comfortable with a highly trained person to protect me at 30,000 feet. I don’t go places that try to restrict my ability to protect myself and my family. I have to be a good example for my son who is a deputy sheriff. I wouldn’t want to do anything to hurt his career. But because of criminals and gang bangers I can’t carry a gun into walmart! Are you kidding me? They aren’t pulling up to Walmart and saying oh crap I gotta put my gun in the trunk because I need to go grab some food. We have to suffer these idiotic restrictions to appease the people who have 24/7 protection that is armed and don’t have any restrictions to where they can carry. Hypocrites are a dime a dozen!
Oh it's not just NOLA. A lot of small towns see this sort of thing too. I was shooting at the "local shooting spot" and a cop pulled up to see who was shooting. After calling my information in he got out of his car without my gun and told me he was going to have to keep my gun because he couldn't get any information to confirm it was mine but I was free to leave. I asked for some type of property receipt but was told he didn't have to give me one. Went to courthouse with my receipt and was told they had no such gun and no incident report. Hmmm. Another incident was I loaned my buddy a pistol to compare to one he had just bought. He got pulled over and he let the officer know both pistols were in the vehicle. He also explained having my pistol and gave him my information. My buddy had a felony arrest years before that had been dropped. My buddy was arrested for Felon in possession of firearm both guns confiscated and I was never informed they had my gun. Again, to the courthouse with my receipt and again no record of my gun being confiscated. After a few days of calling my gun suddenly materialized and they gave it back. When my buddy went to court the only charges on him were speeding and failure to stop for police officer. No mention of any firearms! Hmmm.
Uh...earlier you said "Clearly you haven’t read the constitution…. Shall not be infringed does not make someone a criminal because they are practicing their God given rights."
So, would trying to carry a gun on a plane not make someone a criminal?
Who is highly trained on a plane that is protecting you?
It's not illegal for you to carry concealed in Walmart (in Louisiana) if you have a CHP. Walmart might not appreciate it, but you aren't breaking the law.
Without trying to stir up the "in" or "at" a parade debate, let me say that there are NO parades on Bourbon Street. There are a few that parade in other parts of the Quarter.
It's possible that the clause referring to an event for which a permit is needed was invoked. If such a permit was issued for some of the activities along Bourbon Street (like the annual costume competition), then I can see carrying there would be a problem.
I'd really like to know what each of the 64 illegalities were alleged in any arrest records.
It's possible that the clause referring to an event for which a permit is needed was invoked. If such a permit was issued for some of the activities along Bourbon Street (like the annual costume competition), then I can see carrying there would be a problem.
I'd really like to know what each of the 64 illegalities were alleged in any arrest records.
iirc they regularly have the PD on Bourbon looking for people concealed carrying & confiscating firearms regardless of Mardi Gras/parades.
For instance: https://www.wdsu.com/article/new-or...rench-quarter-over-halloween-weekend/41938656
For instance: https://www.wdsu.com/article/new-or...rench-quarter-over-halloween-weekend/41938656
2 things -
1) people really need to learn how to conceal a gun if they are going to carry "concealed". If it prints, its not concealed.
2) I suppose that even if you are not printing, they are profiling - from the linked story: "Sergeants who are proactive and have been teaching these officers what to look for and characteristics of people who are carrying firearms."
You do know the requirements for a conviction and the requirements for a legal investigatory stop are not the same, don't you?
Exactly what I was thinking Perez
"Why did you stop that guy with the big bottle of laundry detergent running away from the area where a store just reported someone shoplifting a big bottle of laundry detergent? How do you know he didn't buy that big bottle of laundry detergent from the other store across the street and he's running home to wash his uniform because he's late for work? You're profiling again, aren't you?"
I do. And I'm not bothered in the least by least by profiling. Honestly, I suspect that it works pretty well given that local LEO's should have a good idea who to stop after a few years on the job. If you are not doing anything wrong, a minute of compliance should be all that you need to be on your way.
What I can't figure out is why the "profilee's" keep showing up to test the system. Or why people don't take more care in concealing. Especially if they are in a non-permissive area.
Either way, I'm not the guy that they are stopping - I'm as plain vanilla as it gets and don't print at all. Or run with detergent.
Why do they test the system? There are a few reasons. They have to act macho by carrying so everyone will respect them. They believe they would be in danger without it. And maybe their lifestyle choices have made that somewhat true. I've always said if you have to carry a gun to feel safe somewhere, you should consider if you really need to go there. But some people see that as being scared so they will go anyway and carry.
The people who fall into that groups also tend to "Mexican carry." I guess holsters are for chumps. But while you (hopefully) use a holster and are comfortable carrying, they are self conscious about it. You look in the mirror and realize your clothes naturally bend and fold when you move, others see printing and get nervous. So when they're out there doing their think, and especially when they see a uniformed officer, they tend to make sure their handgun is secure. They'll touch it through their clothes when that officer isn't looking at them. But if there happens to be someone watching them, maybe a district level task force assigned to work in plain clothes to better blend in with the crowd, who is looking for things like that, it can become obvious who is carrying and who isn't.
Holster - yes. Hell, I may have more invested in holsters than pistols. And I carry all of the time so I don't even notice that I have one on. I actually have to pat myself down before going in some places and have had to turn around more than I care to remember.
And I carry all of the time so I don't even notice that I have one on. I actually have to pat myself down before going in some places and have had to turn around more than I care to remember.I'd go out on a limb that many/most of them did something else besides just being caught illegally carrying a concealed firearm. A few probably were just poorly carrying and were printing. I'm honestly skeptical whether any of the 64 had valid CHPs. I'd like to think that an officer would just give someone a stern talking to if they have a CHP, are sober, and are just in/at a parade and ignorant of the law.
Justifiably so. Most people on Bourbon St are drunk or drinking, which doesn't mix with carrying a concealed firearm.
I have carried on Bourbon St. probably 15 times in the past three or four years and have walked past multiple cops, none of which gave me a hard time. I'm also very confident they had no clue I had a gun. I was sober and don't dress like a "gun guy."
One time I did have a drunk try to steal my MIL's purse and then who tried to fight me...
Agreed. So many people who have valid CHPs absolutely suck at fully concealing a firearm. It doesn't help that many of them are fat, out of shape, and have no ability to retain a firearm in any hand-to-hand situation, either. But that's a different story.
Born4spd
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You can’t be allowed to carry where blacks are likely to misbehave.
Low trust people get low trust rules.
It’s easier to see it as gun = bad.
Until they abandon thug life we have to live under draconian laws.
Low trust people get low trust rules.
It’s easier to see it as gun = bad.
Until they abandon thug life we have to live under draconian laws.
WilsonCombatant
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Guilty as charged. Lol!! I notice the bigger my gut gets, the smaller the gun I have to carry. I’m working on it, wife complains every day
