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    Horrible said:
    Not yet. Still has to go to full house vote, possibly a conference committee and then to the Governors desk for signature. After Landry signs it, it will be law effective in July
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    And what are the timelines for these steps?
     
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    Horrible said:
    Not yet. Still has to go to full house vote, possibly a conference committee and then to the Governors desk for signature. After Landry signs it, it will be law effective in July
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    There's more than enough votes to pass it in the house, and Landry has said he will sign it. Extraordinary session ends March 6, so that's the last date for the fat lady to sing.
     
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    A bunch of crybabies are screaming the process is moving too fast. Well, everyone here should know that everything needs to slowdown now so the dummies can keep up. I'm telling you; I've never listened to more stupid people in my life than listening in on some of these representatives, I mean these people sound stupid, actually, beyond stupid!

    Are there no minimum requirements for the job? I have met grammar school children with more on the ball than these people.
     
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    The person carrying their weapon should acquaint themselves with where they can legally carry. For instance, ABO are places you cannot carry. At one time, a business that generates the majority of it's income from alcohol sales was considered an ABO. Now, if a business serves alcohol to be consumed on the premises, it is an ABO. So, Middendorf's, etc (insert your favorite restaurant here), that serves alcohol is an ABO, so carrying concealed on those premises is illegal (unless something has changed).
     
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    La26 said:
    The person carrying their weapon should acquaint themselves with where they can legally carry. For instance, ABO are places you cannot carry. At one time, a business that generates the majority of it's income from alcohol sales was considered an ABO. Now, if a business serves alcohol to be consumed on the premises, it is an ABO. So, Middendorf's, etc (insert your favorite restaurant here), that serves alcohol is an ABO, so carrying concealed on those premises is illegal (unless something has changed)
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    You can't carry in a bar. You can however, carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol but you can't go in the bar area.


    Louisiana Laws - Louisiana State Legislature

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    La26 said:
    The person carrying their weapon should acquaint themselves with where they can legally carry. For instance, ABO are places you cannot carry. At one time, a business that generates the majority of it's income from alcohol sales was considered an ABO. Now, if a business serves alcohol to be consumed on the premises, it is an ABO. So, Middendorf's, etc (insert your favorite restaurant here), that serves alcohol is an ABO, so carrying concealed on those premises is illegal (unless something has changed).
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    Subsection N. of the law reads:
    "No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any of the following:
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    (10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises."

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    Middendorfs has a Class-A Restaurant license, meaning you are okay to carry there.

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    An example of somewhere you couldn't carry is Fred's (the popular college bar in BR):
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    SwampyDog said:
    You can't carry in a bar. You can however, carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol but you can't go in the bar area.


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    That's actually not accurate. See my post above. It entirely depends on the type of permit they have.

    If a restaurant has a bar (with a Class A Restaurant Permit) - you can even sit at the bar. You just
    An example is applebees...with a restaurant permit and a bar. You are good to go to the bar, concealed, and order a burger.

    What you can't do is get drunk, per the same law listed above, just a different subsection:
    "I.(1) No individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued or a person carrying a weapon pursuant to R.S. 14:95(M) may carry and conceal such handgun while under the influence of alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance. While a permittee is under the influence of alcohol or a controlled dangerous substance, an otherwise lawful permit is considered automatically suspended and is not valid. A permittee shall be considered under the influence as evidenced by a blood alcohol reading of .05 percent or greater by weight of alcohol in the blood, or when a blood test or urine test shows any confirmed presence of a controlled dangerous substance as defined in R.S. 40:961 and 964."

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    Sounds good AustinBR. Thanks for posting that. As I stated, I hope everyone checks out the legalities. One might even consider joining an organization that provides legal services in the event of being in a "situation" where they have to protect themselves or a loved one. I have one that even provides bail, if necessary in addition to legal representation. If the worst happens and you have to take action and "go loud", your legal coverage could cost a fortune even if you are 100% right and lawful in your actions.

    edited to add: LEO can obtain such legal coverage as a member of the FOP.
     
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    La26 said:
    Sounds good AustinBR. Thanks for posting that. As I stated, I hope everyone checks out the legalities. One might even consider joining an organization that provides legal services in the event of being in a "situation" where they have to protect themselves or a loved one. I have one that even provides bail, if necessary in addition to legal representation. If the worst happens and you have to take action and "go loud", your legal coverage could cost a fortune even if you are 100% right and lawful in your actions.
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    Agreed. Unfortunately, it's hard to parse through the bad, outdated, or misinformation that is out there. A lot of CHL instructors mean well, but tell people things that are just not true.

    What carry insurance do you have?
     
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    AustinBR said:
    Agreed. Unfortunately, it's hard to parse through the bad, outdated, or misinformation that is out there. A lot of CHL instructors mean well, but tell people things that are just not true.

    What carry insurance do you have?
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    CCW Safe. It is the Military/Law Enforcement Policy. And I also have the FOP coverage.
     
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    Peacemaker said:
    I find that most reasonable people that want a gun for personal protection generally try and learn something about ownership and responsibility of ownership. I've seen many of those folks realize they are better off without ownership of a firearm for a plethora of personal reasons. So, this law in my mind really won't change very much in the way law abiding people carry firearms, I really don't think any more people will carry after the law has passed than do now.

    Many people I know have had the course and decided not to get the permit, they really don't want to carry a firearm, they really just don't want to be a criminal when they work late and have to lock the office and maybe the gate at the parking lot, or they breakdown on the way home, or they decide to stay home during a hurricane and want to protect their property. I think for the vast majority, this really won't change the number of people carrying firearms concealed.

    The young thug will carry now more than they once did, but they'll thin themselves out over time.
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    I agree with you on everything else, but I do believe there will be more folks carrying concealed. Those you mentioned are likely part timers and only carry under the circumstances you listed. I imagine there are plenty of good law abiding citizens who would carry concealed daily if they didn’t need a permit to freely do so. I wonder if any of the other states have the numbers figured out yet?
     
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    Magdump said:
    I agree with you on everything else, but I do believe there will be more folks carrying concealed. Those you mentioned are likely part timers and only carry under the circumstances you listed. I imagine there are plenty of good law abiding citizens who would carry concealed daily if they didn’t need a permit to freely do so. I wonder if any of the other states have the numbers figured out yet?
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    That will certainly be the case. I imagine it's difficult to get accurate statistics on it, though.
     
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    Peacemaker said:
    "To grant immunity from liability for persons authorized to carry concealed handguns." ?

    What exactly does this mean?
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    *I haven't read the bill so I can't exactly your question beyond a doubt...

    However in my humble opinion and understanding:
    "To grant immunity from liability for persons authorized to carry concealed handguns."
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    This is what it should mean... You cannot have some liberal goober snowflake sue you for having to protect yourself or another innocent person no matter what necessary force is applied to do so...
    And you are protected from unlawful search, seizure, and illegal incarnation by any political left-wing hack because you did what was lawfully correct and necessary to survive the situation...
    Anyhow that's my opinion. For whatever it's worth...
    PERIOD!!!
     
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