CCW in reception halls

[LACamper]

I'm going to a wedding soon for a neighbor's kid. I'm expecting trouble to erupt there- either between his friends or from the cops looking for someone. Can I carry in a reception hall or is that classified the same as a bar?

and no, I'm not thrilled about going but don't feel like I have much of a choice... I don't plan on staying long.

 

[dantheman]

Sounds like a bad situation to put yourself in . Lot's of people , the expectation of trouble . Go to the wedding . Skip the reception .

 

[david210]

N. No concealed handgun may be carried into and no concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to this Section shall authorize or entitle a permittee to carry a concealed handgun in any of the following:
(1) A law enforcement office, station, or building.
(2) A detention facility, prison, or jail.
(3) A courthouse or courtroom, provided that a judge may carry such a weapon in his own courtroom.
(4) A polling place.
(5) A meeting place of the governing authority of a political subdivision.
(6) The state capitol building.
(7) Any portion of an airport facility where the carrying of firearms is prohibited under federal law, except that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, if the firearm is encased for shipment, for the purpose of checking such firearm as lawful baggage.
(8) Any church, synagogue, mosque, or other similar place of worship.
(9) A parade or demonstration for which a permit is issued by a governmental entity.
(10) Any portion of the permitted area of an establishment that has been granted a Class A-General retail permit, as defined in Part II of Chapter 1 or Part II of Chapter 2 of Title 26 of the Louisiana Revised Statutes of 1950, to sell alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises.
(11) Any school "firearm-free zone" as defined in R.S. 14:95.6.
O. The provisions of Subsection N of this Section shall not limit the right of a property owner, lessee, or other lawful custodian to prohibit or restrict access of those persons possessing a concealed handgun pursuant to a permit issued under this Section. No individual to whom a concealed handgun permit is issued may carry such concealed handgun into the private residence of another without first receiving the consent of that person.

 

[david210]

That came out of the rule book but this is what the law states.

95.5. Possession of firearm on premises of alcoholic beverage outlet

A. No person shall intentionally possess a firearm while on the premises of an alcoholic beverage outlet.

B. "Alcoholic beverage outlet" as used herein means any commercial establishment in which alcoholic beverages of either high or low alcoholic content are sold in individual servings for consumption on the premises, whether or not such sales are a primary or incidental purpose of the business of the establishment.

C. The provisions of this Section shall not apply to the owner or lessee of an alcoholic beverage outlet, or to an employee of such owner or lessee, or to a law enforcement officer or other person vested with law enforcement authority acting in the performance of his official duties.

D. Whoever violates the provisions of this Section shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

Acts 1985, No. 765, §1.

 

[david210]

Seem to me that section B will apply to the event

 

[Nolacopusmc]

That came out of the rule book but this is what the law states.

95.5. Possession of firearm on premises of alcoholic beverage outlet

A. No person shall intentionally possess a firearm while on the premises of an alcoholic beverage outlet.

B. "Alcoholic beverage outlet" as used herein means any commercial establishment in which alcoholic beverages of either high or low alcoholic content are sold in individual servings for consumption on the premises, whether or not such sales are a primary or incidental purpose of the business of the establishment.

C. The provisions of this Section shall not apply to the owner or lessee of an alcoholic beverage outlet, or to an employee of such owner or lessee, or to a law enforcement officer or other person vested with law enforcement authority acting in the performance of his official duties.

D. Whoever violates the provisions of this Section shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars or imprisoned for not more than six months, or both.

Acts 1985, No. 765, §1.

Definitely a grey area as far as being an ABO is concerned. They probably have a Class A permit which would make it a no go, but at most receptions, you do not pay for alcohol which would not apply to the general carrying in ABO statute.


I agree that it sounds like a bad situation all around. I would show my face and make a graceful exit.

 

[david210]

Yea I would not chance it.

 

[SpeedRacer]

Just open carry, problem solved.

 

[W1nds0rF0x]

To me a reception hall is no different than a restaurant.

 

[LACamper]

B. "Alcoholic beverage outlet" as used herein means any commercial establishment in which alcoholic beverages of either high or low alcoholic content are sold in individual servings for consumption on the premises, whether or not such sales are a primary or incidental purpose of the business of the establishment.

I wouldn't say a reception hall 'sold in individual servings'. They sell by the bottle. That's pretty grey.

I guess I'll play it by ear when I get there. If there is a police presence (detail cops,etc) that it should be cool enough to not carry.

 

[Gus McCrae]

Expect trouble? Don't go.

 

[LACamper]

I don't expect trouble, but there will be some guys there that have been in a lot of trouble with the cops. One was involved with a theft ring that made the news about 6 months ago. Another kidnapped a diabetec girl and locked her in my neighbor's shed.

Its for our next door neighbor's kid that doesn't live there any more. We feel like we need to make an appearance. We'll evaluate from there...

 

[CavalryJim]

My rule - If there is a reasonable chance that me or my family may be harmed, stay home.

 

[LACamper]

Well, that was certainly a memorable wedding... we did the quick appearance and bugged out. No excitement... or at least while we were there.

I think I'll call LSP next week and try to get a clarafication on this anyway. I've been to a few receptions in the quarter where I would like to have carried to/from the car.

 

[smith625]

Well, that was certainly a memorable wedding... we did the quick appearance and bugged out. No excitement... or at least while we were there.

I think I'll call LSP next week and try to get a clarafication on this anyway. I've been to a few receptions in the quarter where I would like to have carried to/from the car.

I heard that, multiple weapons too in the quarter.

 

[jjh]

most reception halls that my wife and I looked at when we got married said that there would be no weapons in or on the property