Hypothetical Situation

[LSUh20fowler]

OK, I have gig to work Saturday night at a large business. This is a "gray" area concerning CHP. I'm sticking to my policy of " what they can not see ain't hurting them." But in the event that a situation came up where I was in danger of my life, with no way out of situation, and had to use my weapon to defend myself, how would this affect me legally. I know I'd have a hell of an ordeal immediately afterward until everything got figured out. But what about being in a "grey" area and legally defending myself. Would I be illegal and go to prison? Or have my CHP revoked? What would I be looking at?

 

[spanky]

You'd still be alive (potentially)...

 

[LSUh20fowler]

You'd still be alive (potentially)...

That is why I'm sticking to being unknown.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

You would be potentially a criminal because you may be interpreted as breaking the law. That does not put you in a good light when a jury of your "peers" is passing judgement.

That said, you would maybe be alive.

Didn't you take my class?

 

[scooterj]

Why is it "gray"? Either CC is allowed or it isn't.

 

[LSUh20fowler]

No I haven't met you yet, Nola. But hope too one day.

The gray area is this. I'll be collecting tickets to an MMA fight at a casino. Then afterwards watching the fight. I won't be on the gambling floor but in one of the back entertainment rooms.

 

[spanky]

Which fight? I wanna go.

 

[bayoupirate]

Good Question.
I'd bet ALL of the Casino is included as no CCW.

Looking foward to hearing the outcome.

 

[LSUh20fowler]

Hopefully there won't be an outcome, that night or any other time. But I will be prepared either way.

Its some fights in Marksville. A fight club out of Alexandria putting on some fights.

Would ya'll consider my actions irresponsible?

 

[tmlowe]

Are you an employee of the casino? Is the entertainment room considered a bar that sells alcohol?

 

[LSUh20fowler]

OK, I was wrong. Fights are not at the casino. They are in Alexandria at a convention center.

 

[charlie12]

OK lets say they were at the Casino. What do the Indians say about guns in their casino? Is it LA state law or Indian law?

 

[Narco]

Alexandria probably has an city ordinance against carrying of weapons at any event which has a permit.

 

[charlie12]

OK here's the City Codes for there. I don't see anything about being able to carry with a CHP. OK Narco what do you think of that?


http://www.municode.com/resources/gateway.asp?pid=11767&sid=18


Sec. 15-65. Carrying a firearm in a firearm-free zone.
(a) Carrying a firearm in a firearm-free zone is unlawful and is the intentional possession of any firearm on one's person, within such firearm-free zone.
(b) The purposes of this section, the term firearm-free zone shall have the following meaning:
Firearm-free zone is an area inclusive of any municipal building, park or playground and the area within five hundred (500) feet of any such municipal building, park or playground, or within a city bus.
(c) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) A federal, state, or local law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties.
(2) The possession of a firearm occurring within five hundred (500) feet of the firearm-free zone and entirely on private property, entirely within a private residence, or in accordance with a concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to LSARS 40:1379.1.
(3) Any constitutionally protected activities which cannot be regulated by the state, such as a firearm contained entirely within a motor vehicle.
(d) Whoever commits a crime of carrying a firearm in a firearm-free zone shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars ($500.00) nor imprisoned for more than six (6) months.
(e) Lack of knowledge that the prohibited act occurred on or within five hundred (500) feet of the firearm-free zone shall not be a defense.
Sec. 15-66. Reserved.

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Sec. 15-104. Illegal carrying of weapons.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to commit illegal carrying of weapons. Illegal carrying of weapons is:
(1) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person; or
(2) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used as a dangerous weapon, at any time by an enemy alien; or
(3) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any tools, or dynamite, or nitroglycerine, or explosives, or other instrumentality customarily used by thieves or burglars at any time by any person with the intent to commit a crime or violate an ordinance; or
(4) The manufacture, ownership, possession, custody or use of any switchblade knife, spring knife or other knife or similar instrument having a blade which may be automatically unfolded or extended from a handle by the manipulation of a button, switch, latch, or similar contrivance.
(5) a. The intentional possession or use by any person of a dangerous weapon on a school campus during regular school hours or on a school bus. "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, or vo-tech school in this state and "campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property. "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.
b. The provisions of this paragraph shall not apply to:
1. A state or local law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties;
2. A school official or employee acting during the normal course of his employment or a student acting under the direction of such school official or employee.
(b) The provisions of this section except subsection (a)(4) shall not apply to law enforcement officers when in the actual discharge of official duties.
State law references: Source, R.S. 14:95.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Most Casino's have no gun signs.

 

[Quas]

OK here's the City Codes for there. I don't see anything about being able to carry with a CHP. OK Narco what do you think of that?


http://www.municode.com/resources/gateway.asp?pid=11767&sid=18


Sec. 15-65. Carrying a firearm in a firearm-free zone.
(a) Carrying a firearm in a firearm-free zone is unlawful and is the intentional possession of any firearm on one's person, within such firearm-free zone.
(b) The purposes of this section, the term firearm-free zone shall have the following meaning:
Firearm-free zone is an area inclusive of any municipal building, park or playground and the area within five hundred (500) feet of any such municipal building, park or playground, or within a city bus.
(c) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) A federal, state, or local law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties.
(2) The possession of a firearm occurring within five hundred (500) feet of the firearm-free zone and entirely on private property, entirely within a private residence, or in accordance with a concealed handgun permit issued pursuant to LSARS 40:1379.1.
(3) Any constitutionally protected activities which cannot be regulated by the state, such as a firearm contained entirely within a motor vehicle.
(d) Whoever commits a crime of carrying a firearm in a firearm-free zone shall be fined not more than five hundred dollars ($500.00) nor imprisoned for more than six (6) months.
(e) Lack of knowledge that the prohibited act occurred on or within five hundred (500) feet of the firearm-free zone shall not be a defense.
Sec. 15-66. Reserved.

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Sec. 15-104. Illegal carrying of weapons.
(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to commit illegal carrying of weapons. Illegal carrying of weapons is:
(1) The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person; or
(2) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used as a dangerous weapon, at any time by an enemy alien; or
(3) The ownership, possession, custody or use of any tools, or dynamite, or nitroglycerine, or explosives, or other instrumentality customarily used by thieves or burglars at any time by any person with the intent to commit a crime or violate an ordinance; or
(4) The manufacture, ownership, possession, custody or use of any switchblade knife, spring knife or other knife or similar instrument having a blade which may be automatically unfolded or extended from a handle by the manipulation of a button, switch, latch, or similar contrivance.
(5) a. The intentional possession or use by any person of a dangerous weapon on a school campus during regular school hours or on a school bus. "School" means any elementary, secondary, high school, or vo-tech school in this state and "campus" means all facilities and property within the boundary of the school property. "School bus" means any motor bus being used to transport children to and from school or in connection with school activities.
b. The provisions of this paragraph shall not apply to:
1. A state or local law enforcement officer in the performance of his official duties;
2. A school official or employee acting during the normal course of his employment or a student acting under the direction of such school official or employee.
(b) The provisions of this section except subsection (a)(4) shall not apply to law enforcement officers when in the actual discharge of official duties.
State law references: Source, R.S. 14:95.

It's an Indian reservation. Those do not apply.

 

[charlie12]

It's an Indian reservation. Those do not apply.

That's what I was wondering.

 

[Quas]

That's what I was wondering.

My bad, I didn't read the whole thing. Just saw the codes being thrown.

 

[Quas]

Ah, realized it was a thread I read. But still, if it is at the reservation, those laws do not apply.

 

[charlie12]

I just found this on the Tribe website. Looks like the enforce State laws too. The said you have to be 21 to gamble by state law.

Tunica-Biloxi Tribal Police Function:

The primary functions of the Police Department are the preservation of the public peace and order, the prevention and detection of crime, the apprehension of offenders, and the protection of persons and property. It must uphold the Constitution of the United States, enforce the laws of the State and the ordinances of the Tunica-Biloxi Tribe.