falshooter
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You can buy 1201 3" barrels on the internet. I have a few
Best close quarters shotgun
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davidd
Expert in the field of wife avoidance
I meant my SL80 was limited to 2 3/4. But I appreciate you clearing that up for others, as I was clearly not clear in my wording.
flamatrix99
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Since it’s the tax free weekend I went to a local gun shop also looking for a home defense shotgun. However, I ended up coming home with this instead. He offered me a deal and it was tax free.
I still need a home defense shotgun. I have a VEPR-12 but I wouldn’t really call that a home defense shotgun.
I still need a home defense shotgun. I have a VEPR-12 but I wouldn’t really call that a home defense shotgun.
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I think that would work just fine as a home defense shotgun
SVT Bansheeman
No more laughing dog
I agree with a maverick 88 or any cheap shotgun. The biggest reason is it may not be the right tool for you. Usually they have low capacity, lots of recoil and you have to run (if it's a pump) it perfect to get a second shot which isn't for everyone.
I recommend going take a class with it as well. I did with an instructor here in Houma. My gear failed and so did my cheap buckshot. While it isn't a self defense firearm, it was fun and I learned a lot.
On a side note, I do pattern my guns and shells. It's interesting to see how far each load typically spreads. For example, I got my SBS (with certain pattern masters chokes) to pattern nearly as tight or tighter as my 28" with a full choke. I have not chronographed them to see how much of a velocity difference there is. I'm afraid to shoot the chrono.
Lastly, you DO have to aim a shotgun.
I recommend going take a class with it as well. I did with an instructor here in Houma. My gear failed and so did my cheap buckshot. While it isn't a self defense firearm, it was fun and I learned a lot.
On a side note, I do pattern my guns and shells. It's interesting to see how far each load typically spreads. For example, I got my SBS (with certain pattern masters chokes) to pattern nearly as tight or tighter as my 28" with a full choke. I have not chronographed them to see how much of a velocity difference there is. I'm afraid to shoot the chrono.
Lastly, you DO have to aim a shotgun.
The first time I brought a Maverick 88 to the range 3" 00 Buck made the forearm leap out of my left hand, and left a mark on my shoulder.
However: Reduced recoil 00 Buck is MUCH more manageable, especially after I took the butt pad off the stock, and shoved a pound of cast bullets, wrapped in an old t-shirt in there.
That shotgun instantly became a ***** cat to shoot. I gave that 88 to one of my wife's students who bought his first home.
I have an old S&W 20ga pump action shotgun that I cut an inch off the LOP and cut the barrel down to 18 1/4". I keep it loaded up with #4 Buck.
Bigchillin83
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If you have ever looked at quality semi auto hunting/defense or trap shooting shotguns then yes you would see that $1000 is very reasonable for a “quality semi auto shotgun “ with those features
But hey, to each his own… 99.9% of the people on here will buy a $300 shotgun, for the end of the world and self defense, shoot it 3 times and put it in the closet for 20 years cause it kicks to hard and never take it out again… so really most people a single shot NEF would satisfy there needs lol
Would dare say less than 2% of this forum put in the trigger time via live fire, dry fire, drawing from concealment, practice clearing your house, acquiring sight picture muscle memory, clearing malfunctions ect …. Sooo yea.. most prob don’t shoot but 100 rounds every 6 months at the most
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flamatrix99
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I used to shoot a lot more when i was interested in USPSA and/or IDPA but you are correct. The vast majority of us don't have the time, or interest, with family, jobs and life in general to invest in all that practice. Especially considering the odds of your house being broken into in the middle of the night is very slim. Don't get me wrong it is still a terrifying thought.
I've never hunted, I know what trap/skeet is but never have participated or watched it. So yes i am lacking as well.
I have a Remington 1100 semi auto that my wife bought for me. It is beautiful and I have shot it a few times and again you are right it has been just sitting in the back of the safe. Not because it kicks to hard just lack of time and interest to go shooting. Working shiftwork sucks at times.
falshooter
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I bought one of these awhile back after some hesitation. But the good reviews on another forum convinced me to try it out.
Paid right at $400 delivered. I am more than satisfied so far.I haven't put as many rds as my Beretta's, which I have had for more yrs then some of you are alive, but has operated without malfunction with everything I feed it, just as fast and with less recoil then my Beretta's 1201's
Bigchillin83
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I feel ya!! I’ve been on shift for 17 years and got another 25 to go
.. I’m blessed enough to be able to shoot on my property in my back yard. It used to be a pain to get everything loaded up and go to the range.. only downside is I burn though ammo being able to go in the back yard anytime I want lol
Kipp Castaing
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This was $500 when I bought it. Black aces has a bad reputation for not being reliable but I broke it initially like they said and as long as I'm using good buckshot or slugs I trust it. I pulled out today to run it some and it worked fine. Nice and short from the factory.
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SVT Bansheeman
No more laughing dog
If someone isn't going to put in the time and practice to make sure their cheap $1000 shotgun is actually reliable, then that makes less sense to me to recommend that over a more reliable cheap pump shotgun.
Or get ar15 style rifle. That way you just press the trigger and it will shoot 30 times. I'm not good with either so don't take my word for it.
Or get ar15 style rifle. That way you just press the trigger and it will shoot 30 times. I'm not good with either so don't take my word for it.
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I'd use my Savage Stevens 16. Cleanly lobbed for 18.5 with a large orange dot sight. B'day present when I was 12. Crack barrel single. I have the options of either high brass #4 lead or
350gr Slug at 1600fps.
I own several 12s (pump and autos) but I love that little stubby 16. Has auto ejector too!
350gr Slug at 1600fps.
I own several 12s (pump and autos) but I love that little stubby 16. Has auto ejector too!
Kipp Castaing
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I still say this is the best one for close Quarters. Genesis gen-12 7 inch barreled SBS. I love this thing. Short, easy to handle, eats any shells you put in it, Reliable.. the Benelli M4 is awesome!, And proven But it's really long for close quarters. But I'm no professional so it's just my opinion.
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OK, that thing is SICK!
How does it pattern at 20 yards with fed flight control?
Kipp Castaing
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Better than I originally thought. It's got a pretty tight pattern to 15-20. I was impressed for a 7 inch barrel. Inside 15 yards it's nasty lol
IlivnDaBoot!
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I agree with JStud and BigH. I own the Maverick 88 and the only change I made was swapping out the stock for the Fab defense shock absorbing adjustable AR style stock and grip. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!
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I agree with the 930 being reliable (plus you can ghost load that tenth round!) and also taking a class or two. Self defense with a shotgun is a different animal.
There’s a 930 somewhere in this pic…
