Doing away with the “New York” trigger?

[Tboy]

Making guns “easier to fire” to make up for general lack of accuracy and training?

Seems legit. Jimminycricket…


https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0210825-s4wbvq5rwjcwlacm5i5eyarvha-story.html

 

[JBP55]

Making guns *easier to fire* to make up for general lack of accuracy and training?

Seems legit. Jimminycricket…


https://www.nydailynews.com/new-yor...0210825-s4wbvq5rwjcwlacm5i5eyarvha-story.html

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No, Purchasing Glocks with their normal triggers like almost every LEA does.

 

[DAVE_M]

Making guns *easier to fire* to make up for general lack of accuracy and training?

You mean issuing standard Glocks, because the NY1/NY2 spring only exists for older LEO switching from DAO wheelguns and new recruits never had an issued gun before.

 

[thperez1972]

As of at least 2019, New Orleans required the NY1 on all Glocks for on-duty and off-duty use. The latest approval for a policy was a couple of weeks ago so I have to believe the NY1 requirement is still in effect.

However, all approved Glock pistols must be equipped with the Glock New York #1 trigger spring.

https://www.nola.gov/getattachment/...-4-Authorized-Firearms-EFFECTIVE-11-15-19.pdf

Their Consent Decree Approved policies are publicly available.
https://www.nola.gov/nopd/policies/

 

[JBP55]

As of at least 2019, New Orleans required the NY1 on all Glocks for on-duty and off-duty use. The latest approval for a policy was a couple of weeks ago so I have to believe the NY1 requirement is still in effect.


https://www.nola.gov/getattachment/...-4-Authorized-Firearms-EFFECTIVE-11-15-19.pdf

Their Consent Decree Approved policies are publicly available.
https://www.nola.gov/nopd/policies/

Another Dumb NOLA Decision!

 

[DAVE_M]

Another Dumb NOLA Decision!

I mean... it's just a trigger spring. It doesn't change anything mechanically other than pull weight.

 

[flyboy]

I mean... it's just a trigger spring. It doesn't change anything mechanically other than pull weight.

From what I have heard from a glock armourer, it is a spring and a transfer bar.

 

[AdvancedLaser]

He needs to return to Armorer school then.

Its removal of the Grey or Orange (NY1, or NY2) NY part, and then replacement with a standard "S" spring. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less. Done in two min or less on each gun.

Armorer on Glock since 2001 and been thru five Factory schools including Advanced Armorer.

 

[DAVE_M]

From what I have heard from a glock armourer, it is a spring and a transfer bar.

You heard wrong. It's just a spring.

 

[Xeon64]

All to make it easier to shoot yourself with a dang striker fire pistol. No thanks. 1911, CZ's, and Old School Sigs and Smiths for me.

 

[flyboy]

You heard wrong. It's just a spring.

He needs to return to Armorer school then.

Its removal of the Grey or Orange (NY1, or NY2) NY part, and then replacement with a standard "S" spring. Thats it, nothing more, nothing less. Done in two min or less on each gun.

Armorer on Glock since 2001 and been thru five Factory schools including Advanced Armorer.

Sorry guys, I am talking about glocks in the mid 1980's. According to the guy I know and trust, both the spring and transfer bar had to be changed. He is a glock armourer, a 15th district judge, we worked together for many years. I know and trust him, I dont know or trust you two! If you two have an issue with his advice, feel free to pm me your phone number for me to pass on to him for him to get in contact with you!

 

[RaleighReloader]

AdvancedLaser and DAVE_M are correct.

I'm also a Glock armorer. My manuals cover all of the generations, and they say nothing about replacing the transfer bar as a part of the New York trigger spring. In fact, there's not even technically a part in a Glock called a "transfer bar." I assume he's referring to the trigger bar, which is part of the trigger assembly (and any Glock armorer knows that you replace the entire trigger assembly, and not just the bar).

There were some changes to the early 1st generation parts, so I guess it's possible that a change was needed back then. But that hasn't been the case for a long time now (if it ever was), and in looking at the armorer parts order form I don't see anything about a different trigger assembly for the New York spring.

As others have said, it's a swap that can be done in about 2 minutes. Painfully easy.

Mike

 

[flyboy]

My bad, I meant trigger bar and not transfer bar. I still trust him more than anyone else though!

 

[DAVE_M]

My bad, I meant trigger bar and not transfer bar. I still trust him more than anyone else though!

You can trust him if you want, but the trigger bar doesn't need to be changed in any generation of Glock to alter pull weight.

 

[iomg8]

I have a FN 509c with a 6 pound trigger pull (just under 6 actually) and a CZ TSO SAO with a 2.2 pound trigger pull. I can drill in the same area at 10+ yards with ease all day long with the TSO but the FN, while good, just not as good. I mean I know there is more to it (longer barrel, heavier gun so less muzzle kick etc etc) but I bet if I put a 2-3 pound on my FN I could drill all day long. People are worried they will shoot more, which isn't true. THe only thing I could see if they have bad trigger discipline and shoot themselves or others by accident more.

 

[flyboy]

You can trust him if you want, but the trigger bar doesn't need to be changed in any generation of Glock to alter pull weight.

Are you a glock armorer? If not, I dont trust you. I also dont know you personally so therefore, again, I dont trust you again!

 

[snipehunter7]

Are you a glock armorer? If not, I dont trust you. I also dont know you personally so therefore, again, I dont trust you again!

Only you can decide where to put your trust.

Keep in mind that a certification, degree, or even a license issued by a governing body doesn’t necessarily make someone an expert or all knowing in their chosen field.


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[flyboy]

Only you can decide where to put your trust.

Keep in mind that a certification, degree, or even a license issued by a governing body doesn’t necessarily make someone an expert or all knowing in their chosen field.


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I am just going to say that I did not vote for joe blow and camel toe harris!

 

[DAVE_M]

Are you a glock armorer? If not, I dont trust you. I also dont know you personally so therefore, again, I dont trust you again!

Multiple armorers have chimed in already, including one that said I was correct, so you can trust whoever you like.

 

[Jstudz220]

All to make it easier to shoot yourself with a dang striker fire pistol. No thanks. 1911, CZ's, and Old School Sigs and Smiths for me.

lol yes because that will greatly increase the odds of someone accidentally shooting themselves.