going to a gun fight with empty gun

[Bigchillin83]

At 37 sec he makes a pretty smooth transition from long gun to sidearm... good thing he wasnt first in the stack.. I know mistakes happen but that was a biggie lol, makes me wonder if he dropped the mag in pursuit

 

[Magdump]

Can’t imagine having a duty weapon that you don’t keep condition one.

 

[JBP55]

Big Time Mistake.

 

[AdvancedLaser]

Can’t imagine having a duty weapon that you don’t keep condition one.

Quite a lot of Police agencies keep loaded mag inserted and empty chamber in the vehicle rifle rack.

 

[Bigchillin83]

he forgot or lost the mag, and the one in the chamber....

 

[MOTOR51]

Quite a lot of Police agencies keep loaded mag inserted and empty chamber in the vehicle rifle rack.

That’s the policy for us.


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[MOTOR51]

he forgot or lost the mag, and the one in the chamber....

I don’t know about the mag but it looked as if he has had way more training on an 870. Looked like his initial reaction was to rack a round in by pumping it. High stress will make you do weird things.


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[KDerekT83]

That’s the policy for us.


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Do yall at least keep the bolt locked back so you can just hit the bolt catch in a rush/high stress situation? I ask because that's how I keep my AR pistol in the house....Was wondering if its good practice in someone's opinion that works in the field/industry. lol

 

[Bigchillin83]

I agree high stress situation and make you do some weird things, but if I had to guess he probably grabbed his rifle out of his car and had to run a good 50 yards or so before getting up there, should’ve been more than enough time to verify loaded chamber for an active shooter situation… but again you had a higher stress situation things change fast

 

[machinedrummer]

I’m glad he didn’t take one in the back of his melon when he ditched the rifle and sought cover. Looked like a big bank to not have a armed security detail. Dunno?

 

[DBMJR1]

In my humble opinion, which is valued at exactly it's cost, . . .

Operator looses mag on the way in because he was not in control of the weapon, relying on the sling while 'running'.
Fastest thing to do would be to reload, not dispose of the group's only long gun. Other's in the team might be depending on that firepower.
Throw a duty rifle on the concrete like that, . . .

Yano:
When the whole Iran hostage thing took place, .. . . a couple of soldiers who rapidly evacuated a burning inferno that was their aircraft, were given Art 15's for leaving their rifles behind. That's how much you should value that rifle.

 

[Magdump]

Can’t imagine having a duty weapon that you don’t keep condition one.

 

[Jstudz220]

Do yall at least keep the bolt locked back so you can just hit the bolt catch in a rush/high stress situation? I ask because that's how I keep my AR pistol in the house....Was wondering if its good practice in someone's opinion that works in the field/industry. lol

Full mag inserted, bolt forward, chamber empty seems like it would be a lot safer. It’s not hard at all to bump the gun and chamber a round. All you have to do is pick it up and charge it.

 

[Jstudz220]

Can’t imagine having a duty weapon that you don’t keep condition one.

Keep in mind long guns aren’t primary weapons for LEO’s. It’s only something they utilize in certain situations.

 

[Jstudz220]

In my humble opinion, which is valued at exactly it's cost, . . .

Operator looses mag on the way in because he was not in control of the weapon, relying on the sling while 'running'.
Fastest thing to do would be to reload, not dispose of the group's only long gun. Other's in the team might be depending on that firepower.
Throw a duty rifle on the concrete like that, . . .

Yano:
When the whole Iran hostage thing took place, .. . . a couple of soldiers who rapidly evacuated a burning inferno that was their aircraft, were given Art 15's for leaving their rifles behind. That's how much you should value that rifle.

Considering he didn’t have the magazine I think the fastest thing to do was switching to his pistol. Even if he had a rig on with spare mags I still think it’s faster just switching to his pistol.

Can’t argue the fact he tossed the only long gun. Even if it does take longer if he had spare mags if I was on that team I’d want him to reload or load it if he had a spare mag on him.

 

[MOTOR51]

Full mag inserted, bolt forward, chamber empty seems like it would be a lot safer. It’s not hard at all to bump the gun and chamber a round. All you have to do is pick it up and charge it.

This. An open bolt gets released with a good pot hole in Louisiana.


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[Bigchillin83]

dont yall remember anything, bolt open, bang on the ground, you will blow your head off it happens in basic training every day

thats straigt from the N.F.A.C.

 

[Jstudz220]

dont yall remember anything, bolt open, bang on the ground, you will blow your head off it happens in basic training every day

thats straigt from the N.F.A.C.

Hahahahahahahaha man I miss laughing at that idiot. What ever happened to him? The sad part is he actually served some time in the army and completed basic. You’d think he would have a somewhat better understanding of the platform.

I remember my first time watching this video and he says something like we call this a bull pup because it has kick . That guy is a true moron and what’s scary is he’s the leader of a group with hundreds if not thousands of members. Who would have thought that large of a group of people could be so ignorant that he’s the leader.

 

[John_]

This. An open bolt gets released with a good pot hole in Louisiana.


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Takes all of 1 second to pull the CH.

 

[MOTOR51]

Takes all of 1 second to pull the CH.

Exactly


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