How to register a Short Barrel Rifle in Louisiana

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  • Tfurn30

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    Just had to go through this process. I had no clue where to start but got alot of help from mouthpiece. Done in 3 days, nough said!
    You da man mouthpiece!
     

    Gunfighter

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    I currently have a standard bushmaster AR with 16" barrel upper. I want to get a short barrel upper for this lower. I figure the paperwork is the same but what about the engraving? What exactly has to be engraved?
     

    Lafsnguy

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    I currently have a standard bushmaster AR with 16" barrel upper. I want to get a short barrel upper for this lower. I figure the paperwork is the same but what about the engraving? What exactly has to be engraved?

    You would have to engrave the name on the form 1 and the city state you or the entity is located. So if you used a trust in Lafayette LA and it was ABC trust you would have to engrave

    ABC Trust
    Lafayette, LA
     

    03protege

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    You would have to engrave the name on the form 1 and the city state you or the entity is located. So if you used a trust in Lafayette LA and it was ABC trust you would have to engrave

    ABC Trust
    Lafayette, LA

    If you move do have to cross out the old city/state and put the new one or does it just go by when it was created?
     

    Lafsnguy

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    No it stays the same. Think of it as the manufacturers engraving on a rifle. Just because a S&W plant moves they don't have to change the engraving for rifles they made there. Same thing applies here. Basically you are the manufacturer of a NFA weapon and have to put your information on it just like any other manufacturer.
     

    swampfoxx

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    The links referred to on page 2 are dead. I am confused. Why am I registering as a firearms manufacturer? Do I put my name or the trust name in the Name of Owner line? What about the trade or business name? Do I have to list all of the trustees in the middle section?

    Thanks
     
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    Lafsnguy

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    Don't have to fill out state paperwork anymore. If you have a trust, LLC or Corp go here

    https://www.atfonline.gov/EForms

    register with them and fill out the form 1 with your trust,LLC or Corp info.

    If your applying as an individual you will need to print out 2 copies of the form 1 front and back on the same sheet of paper. Fill out with your information attach photographs get CLEO signature get two fingerprint cards and send that all in with a 200 check and an ATF form 5330-20 to the ATF and then wait. If you have some questions give me a call I can help walk you through the process.
     

    rdm227

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    If you need a trust contact Mouthpiece on here. I think JC Cypress might also do trusts. Search the forum and you can find the right people. Lafsnguy is also a good source for silencers. Both guys were great to work with.
     

    swampfoxx

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    Two more questions:

    When I file my Form 1 do I need to include the entire 19 pages of the trust, including the notarized signatures of all of the trustees, or just the 4 pages making up the Certification of Trust/Declaration of Trust?

    On my assignment page, do I just put the S/N of the lower, or will ATF assign me a new number for the SBR?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    YoungMarine

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    I attached my entire trust, granted it was only 7 or 8 pages. On attachment page I listed make, model, serial, and date off addition of the lower to the trust. The e-file picture step by step instructions shown on ar15.com are very helpful. My first was approved with no errors using that guide.
     

    swampfoxx

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    Sorry to be a PITA, but I have another question. I currently have my 10.5" upper on a pistol lower. For the SBR, I will use a rifle lower so I can just switch the upper to whichever lower I choose at will. I know that you cannot have a VFG on a pistol (AFG is OK) without making it an AOW. When I have the upper on the SBR lower, can I add a VFG?
     

    YoungMarine

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    Sorry to be a PITA, but I have another question. I currently have my 10.5" upper on a pistol lower. For the SBR, I will use a rifle lower so I can just switch the upper to whichever lower I choose at will. I know that you cannot have a VFG on a pistol (AFG is OK) without making it an AOW. When I have the upper on the SBR lower, can I add a VFG?

    Once the tax stamp is approved for sbr you will be able to add your vertical foregrip. Also, don't forget about having your lower receiver engraved.
     

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