If Glocks were never invented.

[Toodamgoofy]

I just want to do a poll for all the veterans, current military, security and law enforcement. If Glocks or polymer weapons were never invented what weapon would you use as a duty weapon considering that it will be an all metal firearm. I have shot and stood watch with Colt 45acp and Beretta 92fs but I didn’t like the safety features on both although the 1911 was a little easier to deal with than the Beretta. I went through the Academy several years ago using a Cz sp01 tactical while everyone else used a Glock. I just thought about it and want other peoples opinions and thoughts if polymers were never made what their weapon of choice would be. I believe it is better to have a weapon with no safety or with a decocker only like the Cz sp01 tactical or the Sig Sauer P226 or 220. Please give me your thoughts.

 

[Krobinson108]

I'd probably opt to carry a double stack 1911 5" barrel chambered in 9mm.

 

[KDerekT83]

Sig Sauer .. has always been my alternative choice to Glock.

 

[John_]

Springfield Armory. I own two of them. Grip safety, way better factory trigger than glock. Some guys balk at the grip safety but the gun will not discharge unless you are holding it to fire it. Grip and trigger safeties. John M Browning's magnificent design 1911 had a grip safety, for over 100 years now. I own a glock too, a G22 cop trade in. My first SA 40 cal pistol cost me $350 total brand new from PSA, a few years ago, a great deal. I just added a SA compact 9mm OSP to the stable, wearing a Holosun red dot. Actually an 8 moa circle reticle, 50k hour battery, motion activated on/off. An amazing carry rig imo. 3.8" barrel, 14 rounds. Springfield Armory sells high quality reliable pistols, some manufactured actually in Croatia.
SA been in business for 244 years, right here in the good ole USA.

 

[Toodamgoofy]

Springfield Armory. I own two of them. Grip safety, way better factory trigger than glock. Some guys balk at the grip safety but the gun will not discharge unless you are holding it to fire it. Grip and trigger safeties. John M Browning's magnificent design 1911 had a grip safety, for over 100 years now. I own a glock too, a G22 cop trade in. My first SA 40 cal pistol cost me $350 total brand new from PSA, a few years ago, a great deal. I just added a SA compact 9mm OSP to the stable, wearing a Holosun red dot. Actually an 8 moa circle reticle, 50k hour battery, motion activated on/off. An amazing carry rig imo. 3.8" barrel, 14 rounds. Springfield Armory sells high quality reliable pistols, manufactured actually in Croatia.

Springfield armory 1911?

 

[John_]

Springfield armory 1911?

yes sir, initially made by Colt and the Springfield Armory. Actually SA origins date back to 1774 and producing muskets. I just read SA bio on wiki, not like i remember all this from my memory.

 

[Toodamgoofy]

yes sir, initially made by Colt and the Springfield Armory. Actually SA origins date back to 1774 and producing muskets. I just read SA bio on wiki, not like i remember all this from my memory.

You do know that Cz bought out Colt right?

 

[John_]

You do know that Cz bought out Colt right?

I see that as a good thing BC the Colt of today IS NOT the Colt of 30 or 40 years ago. They can't even produce a new Python without cylinder timing issues in some sold.

I sold new Pythons in the early 1990s, and they were crafted by master gunsmiths. Those today do not exist, least @ Colt. The Colts of the 70s, 80s were the finest DA pistol produced imo. Silky smooth action, especially the DA. Just a beautiful pistol, in that deep, perfect Colt royal blue finish.

I shot a guy's brand new 357 Python @ Bedico range just a few weeks ago. And it did run well. He paid like $2k with tax. Not me buddy.

 

[falshooter]

You have the original .gov Springfield Armory (closed in 1968) mixed in with the commercial Springfield Armory Inc. which opened in 1974

 

[John_]

You have the original .gov Springfield Armory (closed in 1968) mixed in with the commercial Springfield Armory Inc. which opened in 1974

and this is true. But they still produce high quality firearms imo.

 

[John_]

when did Gustave Glock start pumping out pistols? And ole Gustave was a genius imo. fun fact: he was making curtain rods before his pistols.

 

[Toodamgoofy]

when did Gustave Glock start pumping out pistols? And ole Gustave was a genius imo. fun fact: he was making curtain rods before his pistols.

You’re not helping the Glock confidence lol

 

[John_]

You’re not helping the Glock confidence lol

LOL, what can I say? I did choose a new SA just a week ago, for the reasons I cited above. And its Gaston Glock, not Gustave. All those Austrians look alike. My bad.

 

[John_]

I wonder why all of these years Glock didn't get Arnold Schwartzenigger to promote their pistols/product? Both from Austria, the "Terminator" bad guy image.

 

[Toodamgoofy]

I wonder why all of these years Glock didn't get Arnold Schwartzenigger to promote their pistols/product? Both from Austria, the "Terminator" bad guy image.

I wondered the same thing

 

[Vigilante Sniper]

If I was to carry an all metal gun it would be a CZ with decocker. I love 1911's but all but one of mine I have to disable the grip safety because I grip so high. Sig 226 would be my second choice.

 

[John_]

If I was to carry an all metal gun it would be a CZ with decocker. I love 1911's but all but one of mine I have to disable the grip safety because I grip so high. Sig 226 would be my second choice.

I'm guessing you have smaller hands. A good gunsmith can tune the 1911 grip safety, both the weight to release it and how much travel is required. I do my own, what i have learned in the last 25 years. Big Tim has a SS Colt Government model 45 acp I accurized and tweaked, I presented it to him as a gift. I believe you know Big Tim.

 

[Jstudz220]

yes sir, initially made by Colt and the Springfield Armory. Actually SA origins date back to 1774 and producing muskets. I just read SA bio on wiki, not like i remember all this from my memory.

Actually the original springfield also known as the United States arsenal at Springfield closed in 1968. L&H gun co bought the name to capitalize off of it even tho theirs no affiliation between the two.

 

[John_]

Actually the original springfield also known as the United States arsenal at Springfield closed in 1968. L&H gun co bought the name to capitalize off of it even tho theirs no affiliation between the two.

Actually here is an accurate history of Springfield Armory as we know it today. → https://www.springfield-armory.com/intel/about/

They have been manufacturing firearms way before Gaston Glock did. Gaston was still making curtain rods in the 70s. Ole Gaston is now age 92 and still kickin it.

 

[Fred_G]

I would carry a full sized 1911 in either 9mm or .38 Superb.