Is this a good deal?

[CajunTim]

http://www.forthehunt.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=81157146
Description for Item # 81157146



ATI MOSSBERG 500 FOLDING STOCK + ForeGrip COMBO

*SUPER VALUE COMBO ! SAVE over 40% off RETAIL ! ATI TOP FOLDING SHOTGUN STOCK PLUS 5 SHELL HOLDER FOR MOSSBERG 500 590 & 835 SHOTGUNS WITH ADAPTERS TO FIT ANY OF THE FOLLOWING OTHER SHOTGUNS (12 & 20 Gauge Mossberg 500/590/835, Maverick 88, Remington 870, Winchester 1200/1300 pump shotguns & THE Norinco 98 Series) + Black Vented Barrel HEAT SHIELD with Ghost ring Sight system + BLACK PISTOL GRIP FORE GRIP ! ALL IN ONE AUCTION ALL AT ONE LOW PRICE !. The ultimate compact, tough design. Shotgun functions in open or closed position. Includes rear pistol grip. Quick release button allows buttstock to fold/unfold instantly. Sling swivel stud included. Reversible for right or left-handed shooters. Made in the USA and backed by an Unconditional Lifetime Warranty. Stock is pre-drilled to accept the Shotshell HolderWHICH IS INCLUDED IN THIS AUCTION. Includes adapters and mounting hardware to fit 12 & 20 Gauge Mossberg 500/590/835, Maverick 88, Remington 870, and Winchester 1200/1300 pump shotguns. Norinco 98 Series - Simple installation - no gunsmithing required. NOTE: AUCTION IS FOR STOCK , SHELL HOLDER, FORE GRIP & HEAT SHIELD ONLY !! NO GUN ! NO AMMO ! ARE INCLUDED ! THIS SHOULD BE OBVIOUS BUT SOME WILL ASK....... **** BRAND NEW *****

 

[LouisianaCarry]

Looks good to me, but what do I know.

 

[CajunTim]

I think I am going to go for it, I want to Bubba up my shotgun and was just wondering what everyone thought of the deal.

 

[LouisianaCarry]

All other things being equal, though, it is cooler to be cool.

 

[CajunTim]

See here is my shotgun just a run of the mill 20" 500. I would like to Bubba it. I already have a pistol grip for it but I would rather have the stock so being able to switch between the two in seconds is what I'm after. I also plan on ordering a 28" barrel to go duck hunting with. As I was invited to go teal hunting last weekend but didn't have a gun to go with. That and I shot the bead off of it and think I will enjoy the ghost rings.
LSP what is the deal with #4 shot for Law Enforcement is it worth investing in for home defense?

 

[CajunTim]

Thanks for the info. What is your or anyones opinion of reduced recoil loads? I haven't tried them yet but think I might look into getting some that way the wife wont be scared to grab the 12 if needed.

 

[topgunz1]

we issue the federal reduced recoil 00B, never seen anyone have any issues shooting it with proper technique, including smaller framed females who have never fired a shotgun before.

 

[CajunTim]

Sounds good, I assume it has the same stopping power. Is it recommended for hunting or just personnel defense?

 

[LouisianaCarry]

Newton's law applies to reduced recoil. You cannot reduce recoil (all else being equal) without reducing the force of the explosion. You cannot reduce the explosion (all else equal) without reducing velocity. You cannot reduce velocity (all else equal) without reducing penetration. You cannot reduce penetration (all else equal) without reducing 'stopping power.'

You can't escape physics, is all I am saying. There are mechanical means of reducing felt recoil, but reducing it by having a less powerful explosion in the same caliber/weapon cannot help but cut back the wounding potential of the projectile.

This is why (despite the opinion of some) that smaller shot is 'just as effective' as larger shot at 'x' range. Many people assume this to be so 'because an oz of lead is an oz of lead.' Well, no. Would you rather have me throw a one pound rock at you, or a pound of pebbles?

Bird shot may hurt, and I am not going to volunteer to stand in front of you while you shoot it, but it cannot be relied upon to penetrate effectively to stop a determined advancing attacker.

The box-o-truth web site has illustrated this in an interesting fashion, if you would like to see pictures.

 

[Narco]

http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product228.html

http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/product229.html

Anything is avalible Online..

 

[LACamper]

Only the government would use AA Fir plywood to do shooting tests! I bet that stuff is at least $50 a sheet! Our tax dollars hard at work...

 

[gbundersea]

If you can somehow acquire any of the Federal "Tactical" OOB (the product code is LE132 00), jump all over that.

Ammoman.com has it. Here's a picture: http://www.ammoman.com/images/12-ga-tactical.jpg

I'd bought 100 rounds awhile back. Shoots fine in my Mossberg 500.