New Law on Pistol Attachments.

[flamatrix99]

Can we still legally take a braced pistol the the range and shoot until the deadline?

 

[AdvancedLaser]

Can we still legally take a braced pistol the the range and shoot until the deadline?

No, they are illegal unless registered as a SBR. The "deadline" is only the amount of time to register without having to pay the $200

 

[flamatrix99]

ok so we were talking at work and one of the guys said that if you register one as an SBR they are not allowed to be put in a trust? That doesn’t make sense.

 

[Jstudz220]

ok so we were talking at work and one of the guys said that if you register one as an SBR they are not allowed to be put in a trust? That doesn’t make sense.

Does any of this make sense?

 

[Magdump]

winner winner chicken dinner, i knew sombody smart would come along and dumb it down for us... dont forget to throw in the "intent" thats a big one these days

Beats the snot out of “loophole” I’ll tell you that much.

 

[Bigchillin83]

ok so we were talking at work and one of the guys said that if you register one as an SBR they are not allowed to be put in a trust? That doesn’t make sense.

That is true unless you had the said pistol on your trust as a nfa item prior to the date… which 99.99999% is not done, no need to add a pistol to a nfa trust when it’s not a nfa item lol

 

[thperez1972]

ok so we were talking at work and one of the guys said that if you register one as an SBR they are not allowed to be put in a trust? That doesn’t make sense.

As someone said, you must register it with the owner at the time the rule took effect. If it was not already in a trust, it must be registered as an individual. You can transfer it from the individual to a trust but it will require a $200 tax for that transfer. I believe the ATF requires something notarized stating the weapon was part of the trust. The date of that notarized letter should be prior to the rule taking effect.

 

[bigtattoo79]

I’m confused…why not just throw away the stupid brace and use a regular stock at this point?

 

[Magdump]

I’m confused…why not just throw away the stupid brace and use a regular stock at this point?

I think that’s an option after you register the pistol as a SBR…for free….. say, ya know what that kinda sounds like? I think that kinda sounds like a LOOPHOLE.

 

[bigtattoo79]

I think that’s an option after you register the pistol as a SBR…for free….. say, ya know what that kinda sounds like? I think that kinda sounds like a LOOPHOLE.

Oh I understand kinda lol. I never liked the whole brace thing but I understood why people bought them. However for me the problem isn’t the $200.00 stamp, it’s the waiting forever. Heck if they offered a $600.00 overnight stamp I’d have loads of NFA stuff lol.

 

[Magdump]

Oh I understand kinda lol. I never liked the whole brace thing but I understood why people bought them. However for me the problem isn’t the $200.00 stamp, it’s the waiting forever. Heck if they offered a $600.00 overnight stamp I’d have loads of NFA stuff lol.

Lol! Something tells me you would not EVEN be alone.

 

[Tom Shaw]

From the justice department, link below.



The ATF has ruled the brace is not a stock. It appears they still believe that. This rule sounds like a long winded version of "you can't shoulder a brace" without them actually saying you can't shoulder a brace because they already backtracked on braces then backtracked on the backtrack and they would look silly if they backtracked on the backtrack of the backtrack on braces.



Braces are fine. Braces on pistols are still allowed.



If someone is worried, the fix is to take the brace off and put it in the safe next to the pistol. Tis rule skips anything about how to tell when a brace goes from stabilizing a pistol to a brace converting a pistol into a rifle.

Justice Department Announces New Rule to Address Stabilizing Braces, Accessories Used to Convert Pistols into Short-Barreled Rifles

Today, the Department of Justice announced it has submitted to the Federal Register the “Stabilizing Braces” Final Rule, which makes clear that when manufacturers, dealers, and individuals use stabilizing braces to convert pistols into rifles with a barrel of less than 16 inches, commonly...

www.justice.gov

Trying to comply but it can be very expensive. I would rather spend $200 on a new barrel. Hopefully this ruling will be deemed unconstitutional.

 

[flamatrix99]

I have a trust with my cans in it, but it pisses me off that they decided to flip flop again because creepy Uncle Joe demanded it. I am still holding out for a federal court to throw it out as unconstitutional. What firearm pieces/part is next to be banned on the whim of a politician?

If we ended up having to register them it will be on day 119. I could care less about the $200.

The better thing I suspect, for myself, would be to just register them (if we end up having to) for $200 each like a regular SBR and put them directly in my trust.

 

[AdvancedLaser]

Oh I understand kinda lol. I never liked the whole brace thing but I understood why people bought them. However for me the problem isn’t the $200.00 stamp, it’s the waiting forever. Heck if they offered a $600.00 overnight stamp I’d have loads of NFA stuff lol.

For a Form 1 the time isnt as bad. I got one back in like 43 days. The time for a Form 4 is 270 days on average. Big time diff between Form 1 and Form 4

 

[bigtattoo79]

For a Form 1 the time isnt as bad. I got one back in like 43 days. The time for a Form 4 is 270 days on average. Big time diff between Form 1 and Form 4

Wow I never realized that. Is there a reason it’s that way or just their crazy BS?

 

[scooterj]

This is a ruling, not a law. The ATF does not have the authority to create laws. They can only enforce what is on the books. This ruling will get caught up in litigation, like the bump stock did.
I don’t have a braced pistol, so I don’t have a horse in this race. Just think before you give out info that you may not want to.

 

[thperez1972]

Trying to comply but it can be very expensive. I would rather spend $200 on a new barrel. Hopefully this ruling will be deemed unconstitutional.

If you have a braced pistol and want to comply by sbr'ing it, it's not expensive. It's free.

 

[Magdump]

 

[swampfoxx]

Anyone who wants to give away or sell one cheap, I am in the market. Ain't skeered.

 

[Magdump]

Glad somebody in congress is saying things like this out loud!
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED