Rules of Engagement for Exotics

[TheMole68]

https://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/news/...-be-aware-of-escaped-penraised-deer-ldwf-says

Looks like LWF doesn't want funny looking deer wandering around. Good to know there's an actual established rule in case something weird wanders by.

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[KDerekT83]

I'm not a deer hunter, but just browsing all the laws and regulations over the years, I'm honestly surprised you don't have to be escorted by LWF at all times and have verbal and written permission to fire on any individual specimen. What was once seen as a means of survival, right of passage to manhood, etc... Is now looked at as nothing more than a sport. Primary reason I don't hunt to begin with.

 

[MOTOR51]

I'm not a deer hunter, but just browsing all the laws and regulations over the years, I'm honestly surprised you don't have to be escorted by LWF at all times and have verbal and written permission to fire on any individual specimen. What was once seen as a means of survival, right of passage to manhood, etc... Is now looked at as nothing more than a sport. Primary reason I don't hunt to begin with.

“Sportsman’s Paradise”


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[ozarkpugs]

Good call on their part . If they are running wild they are feral and should be eleminated .

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[Magdump]

I'm not a deer hunter, but just browsing all the laws and regulations over the years, I'm honestly surprised you don't have to be escorted by LWF at all times and have verbal and written permission to fire on any individual specimen. What was once seen as a means of survival, right of passage to manhood, etc... Is now looked at as nothing more than a sport. Primary reason I don't hunt to begin with.

I get it. I really do. But so called outdoorsmen or sportsmen are the primary reason it is what it is. Not so much those of today as much as those over the years. The epitome of this for me was cruising through an old bait shop years ago and looking at all the old black and white pics on the wall (I’m guessing late 50’s through 60’s) of all the hundreds of largemouth bass piled up from a day’s catch. Also pics of hunters with lines of game on the ground, a wheelbarrow full of dead squirrels in one pic. Piles of ducks and geese from right here in Louisiana. More than anyone could possibly call putting meat on the table.
I grew up hunting and fishing and resenting the game warden and always had a plan to ditch anything over my bag limit or any illegal ammo or to hurry and shove the plug back in my shotgun if a warden ever showed up. We ate what we caught, never got greedy or wasteful and mostly hunted our own land. When I realized what actually brought about all this federal interference with my outdoor fun I realized we are lucky someone actually stepped in. If not for some form of conservation, about the only thing left to hunt would be feral pigs, the only fish would be carp, the only birds would be
Pouldeau and buzzards. Why? Stupid, greedy and wasteful people with zero concern for the resource or their fellow outdoorsman.
Our Dept of Wildlife and Fisheries ain’t perfect by any means. What government agency is? But I’m pretty sure there would be no Sportsman’s Paradise today if there weren’t some entity that stepped up and made those with no honor or sense of conservation behave themselves.
So, anyone who finds regulation to be a nuisance can thank those who abused the sport in years gone by. They are the reason things got so bad that government stepped in and mucked things up for us.

 

[CatCam]

Agree with you Magdump. I actually wish they would step up their game a little more and limit the trout to 15 instead of 25. I am watching these populations get slaughtered by the charter boats. I have even spoke to the charter guides and they said they are good with it, it would make their outings easier. The avg. customer would be more than happy with 15 specs.

 

[Old School]

Guides need stop giving their limits to their customers

 

[johnpaul]

I get it. I really do. But so called outdoorsmen or sportsmen are the primary reason it is what it is. Not so much those of today as much as those over the years. The epitome of this for me was cruising through an old bait shop years ago and looking at all the old black and white pics on the wall (I’m guessing late 50’s through 60’s) of all the hundreds of largemouth bass piled up from a day’s catch. Also pics of hunters with lines of game on the ground, a wheelbarrow full of dead squirrels in one pic. Piles of ducks and geese from right here in Louisiana. More than anyone could possibly call putting meat on the table.
I grew up hunting and fishing and resenting the game warden and always had a plan to ditch anything over my bag limit or any illegal ammo or to hurry and shove the plug back in my shotgun if a warden ever showed up. We ate what we caught, never got greedy or wasteful and mostly hunted our own land. When I realized what actually brought about all this federal interference with my outdoor fun I realized we are lucky someone actually stepped in. If not for some form of conservation, about the only thing left to hunt would be feral pigs, the only fish would be carp, the only birds would be
Pouldeau and buzzards. Why? Stupid, greedy and wasteful people with zero concern for the resource or their fellow outdoorsman.
Our Dept of Wildlife and Fisheries ain’t perfect by any means. What government agency is? But I’m pretty sure there would be no Sportsman’s Paradise today if there weren’t some entity that stepped up and made those with no honor or sense of conservation behave themselves.
So, anyone who finds regulation to be a nuisance can thank those who abused the sport in years gone by. They are the reason things got so bad that government stepped in and mucked things up for us.

I agree,I believe that sometime in the 50's hunters and fishers realized that depletion and voted to tax themselves with a congressional act(Manguson??) I believe that there were less than 10,000 deer in Loseiana and now a million or so and turkeys were nowhere.I am happy to get one decent deer a year.I don't like to kill but it's really nice to be in the woods when it lights up and listen to the woods come alive.anyway I will be the swamp tomorrow and kill a hog,the one animal that needs to be depleted..Peace

 

[tbone]

I'm not a deer hunter, but just browsing all the laws and regulations over the years, I'm honestly surprised you don't have to be escorted by LWF at all times and have verbal and written permission to fire on any individual specimen. What was once seen as a means of survival, right of passage to manhood, etc... Is now looked at as nothing more than a sport. Primary reason I don't hunt to begin with.

I've debated with myself over posting a reply to this post but, here goes.

Almost all of the laws and regulations related to hunting were lobbied for in person by Enforcement Agents going to the Legislature and buttonholing legislators to pass all of these regulations to make their job easier. I'm not in favor of regulations and especially the myriad of rules that encumber the average hunter out there just trying to recreate.
I personally have heard two quotes from the head of all game wardens that encapsulate their attitude about the people who buy hunting licenses and try to enjoy the outdoors.
1. "If we could make it all illegal then we could just arrest everyone we encounter in the woods and our job would be a lot easier."
2. "A sportsman is an outlaw who lacks opportunity."

I think that there could be just a few laws like there was listed on the licenses sold back in the 40's and 50's. There only needs to be a season and a limit. Who cares how you kill 6 deer. A dead deer is a dead deer no matter how it was killed. A dead squirrel ... ditto. Biologically, it makes no difference how the animal was killed. Then the game wardens could concentrate on the people who blatantly kill more than a limit and quit writing tickets to you, your family and friends for failing to have a blue shell on Thursday when hunting in an area marked by yellow paint if the moon is full.

 

[Magdump]

I've debated with myself over posting a reply to this post but, here goes.

Almost all of the laws and regulations related to hunting were lobbied for in person by Enforcement Agents going to the Legislature and buttonholing legislators to pass all of these regulations to make their job easier. I'm not in favor of regulations and especially the myriad of rules that encumber the average hunter out there just trying to recreate.
I personally have heard two quotes from the head of all game wardens that encapsulate their attitude about the people who buy hunting licenses and try to enjoy the outdoors.
1. "If we could make it all illegal then we could just arrest everyone we encounter in the woods and our job would be a lot easier."
2. "A sportsman is an outlaw who lacks opportunity."

I think that there could be just a few laws like there was listed on the licenses sold back in the 40's and 50's. There only needs to be a season and a limit. Who cares how you kill 6 deer. A dead deer is a dead deer no matter how it was killed. A dead squirrel ... ditto. Biologically, it makes no difference how the animal was killed. Then the game wardens could concentrate on the people who blatantly kill more than a limit and quit writing tickets to you, your family and friends for failing to have a blue shell on Thursday when hunting in an area marked by yellow paint if the moon is full.

Sounds like you’re talking about abuse of power, for one.
And yes, I’m sure there are many Enforcement agents who hate their job and the people they have to deal with. I don’t like regulation either, but since hunters and fishermen of old couldn’t find it in themselves to self regulate, they stirred up the federal government and like all things federal government, wasteful, senseless overkill and boom, now we have another big fat hungry agency to feed. And they are gonna get their supper even if it costs you yours.

 

[Xeon64]

I've debated with myself over posting a reply to this post but, here goes.

Almost all of the laws and regulations related to hunting were lobbied for in person by Enforcement Agents going to the Legislature and buttonholing legislators to pass all of these regulations to make their job easier. I'm not in favor of regulations and especially the myriad of rules that encumber the average hunter out there just trying to recreate.
I personally have heard two quotes from the head of all game wardens that encapsulate their attitude about the people who buy hunting licenses and try to enjoy the outdoors.
1. "If we could make it all illegal then we could just arrest everyone we encounter in the woods and our job would be a lot easier."
2. "A sportsman is an outlaw who lacks opportunity."

I think that there could be just a few laws like there was listed on the licenses sold back in the 40's and 50's. There only needs to be a season and a limit. Who cares how you kill 6 deer. A dead deer is a dead deer no matter how it was killed. A dead squirrel ... ditto. Biologically, it makes no difference how the animal was killed. Then the game wardens could concentrate on the people who blatantly kill more than a limit and quit writing tickets to you, your family and friends for failing to have a blue shell on Thursday when hunting in an area marked by yellow paint if the moon is full.

I agree with you 100 percent. I talk to my neighbor who is a retired Biologist from Wild Life and Fisheries all this time about this. He has told me that there is no need for all of these regulations or even licenses anymore. All of that was put in place in the days of commercial Hunting when animal populations were being decimated. There are not enough people that hunt anymore to effect Animal populations any longer. Ever year there are less and less hunters and less and less places to hunt. They should be opening it up and making is easier to encourage people. But nope. Got to have a license for this a license for that. $200 dollar later your legal to go, you think. But then get pulled over and get a $500 fine for not signing your license.

Also from talking and observing WLF law enforcement agents are people who flunked out of regular police academy and joined WLF. They get joy and pleasure out of harassing people over piddley chicken @#&@ infractions. Until they run into people who do not put up with their crude and real police have come bail them out.

 

[KDerekT83]

Today's society has gotten out of hand. People with no real world experience (spoonfed, millionaire politicians) telling others how to live and what to Do. Pitiful