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    noob

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    People can have different opinions. It doesn't mean one side is slipping. I choose to side with the law as enforced.


    I don't care if you or anyone doesn't follow the law, just as I don't care if you or others drive down I10 at 100 miles per hour. It is 100% your prerogative if you choose to break the law.

    What I do care about is people using the board to break the law. We don't let folks sell weed on here. Or cocaine. Or meth. Or any illegal drugs. We also don't let people sell illegal firearms. We don't let people post illegal services (that would require a FFL). We don't let people offer to sell firearms across state lines without a FFL.

    We aren't forcing anyone to comply with it. But, part of being a responsible gun owner is encouraging others to follow the law. To follow gun safety. And to make gun owners look better.

    Protesting the ATF ruling should be done in a courtroom.
    Can I still push viagra and cialis on the board?
     

    Magdump

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    People can have different opinions. It doesn't mean one side is slipping. I choose to side with the law as enforced.

    Yeah, I choose to follow the laws as well. Pretty sure you know I’m not advocating breaking any laws nor was I talking about that since I stated as much, but stick to that theme if it makes you feel better.
     

    flamatrix99

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    I am holding out that this will get tossed in the trash by some federal court. I don't think anything is illegal yet. Isn't there some 120 day grace period to comply or did that run out?
     

    thperez1972

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    I am holding out that this will get tossed in the trash by some federal court. I don't think anything is illegal yet. Isn't there some 120 day grace period to comply or did that run out?

    From the ATF: "Once the final rule is effective, firearms that are now considered SBRs CANNOT be transferred in their current configuration unless they are properly registered."
     

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    We should all be happy and feel lucky we have this forum. Do some research on other state gun forums and look at what blue state gun owners have to deal with.

    I dont agree with what .gov doing, but it makes sense what this forum is doing.

    The first time the ATF sets up a sting operation for a AR pistol with a brace on it, and the person who is either buying it FTF or selling it FTF gets popped, you can bet they (or their lawyer) will try to shift the blame elsewhere, and guess where they will start? The forum for letting them sell it or buy it.

    Nobody on here is going to “make a stand” over a $60- 200 piece of plastic.
     
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    Griz375

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    As a guy with a dozen SBR's and probably 9 suppressors. I don't see an issue being on a "list" as I've been on it for 15 years and haven't had a knock on my door yet.
    Key term in there is "yet"
    Look at all the supposedly "free" countries not blessed with a 2A and see how their rights to own/use firearms are getting more restricted or even disappearing.

    I hope you can steel enjoy your SBRs & cans in 10-12 years
     

    Tom Shaw

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    The ATF sees the brace as a stock in some instances and as a brace in other instances. You are correct, the weapon is being registered, not the brace. Replacing a <16* barrel with a 16* or greater barrel is one of the ATF's options for a fix.

    In your case, the final ruling made it such that there was no difference between your weapon with the brace and your weapon with a stock. The same restrictions for transferring your weapon with a stock would apply to your weapon with the brace.
    Thanks for the clarification. It is also my understanding that if this ruling happens then you can still use a brace if you have a 16" barrel.
     

    davidd

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    Key term in there is "yet"
    Look at all the supposedly "free" countries not blessed with a 2A and see how their rights to own/use firearms are getting more restricted or even disappearing.

    I hope you can steel enjoy your SBRs & cans in 10-12 years

    noob has been a really good contributing member of this forum for a long time, providing useful information on many subjects, a lot not firearm related. Not someone you should act this way toward. I am also 'on a list' as I used to have an 01-FFL before Clinton made local business requirements a condition of keeping it. A 20ish year old kid in college couldn't handle the expense or time commitment.

    I too now have some 01/04 items.

    For those of us who participated in the legally required approvals, we would appreciate not getting krapp from others. We are just as 2A aware and involved as you. Will this bite us? Time will tell. But it evidently will not affect you, as you are under the radar.

    Best wishes, really. If things go south and fans are hit with stuff, there are plenty of us who are, for decades now, 'on a list.' I guess we are your wave markers.
     

    noob

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    The fear some of you have isn’t without warrant. But regardless if they come after our guns *which is highly unlikely without starting a civil war*, they pretty much know if anyone participates in a gun forum, posts pictures online, and purchased a gun and had a NICS check in the past. And even then, how do they choose of the 100’s of millions of gun owners, who to go after first?

    Don’t post hate speech online, don’t make claims you will attack someone, or someone should be killed, and don’t have a criminal history and the chances you will be targeted by the .gov is slim to none.
     

    noob

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    Key term in there is "yet"
    Look at all the supposedly "free" countries not blessed with a 2A and see how their rights to own/use firearms are getting more restricted or even disappearing.

    I hope you can steel enjoy your SBRs & cans in 10-12 years
    I hope I can still enjoy them. Guess as a last resort I still have the machine guns to lay down suppressive fire….
     

    M_Lee

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    I don't get the negative comments on here directed towards the forum because they won't have any more ads involving braced pistols, which is in reality a short barreled rifle with a POS almost useless rear stock on it. The forum is simply adjusting for ever changing firearms laws. They're not being bootlickers, or whatever other silly term is used these days.
    My own personal opinion on those brace pistol things is they're all but useless. I'm happy with my 16" barrel Colt M-4 and my 20" barrel Colt AR-15.
     

    Bigchillin83

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    Sooo just curious… what’s the diff, we have alwasy been able to sell a “pistol” with a brace and a “ stock” in the photo with package…. Didn’t mean it was an sbr… so why can’t we sell a “pistol” with the brace off and as a package also?
     

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    Think for the guys worried about your rights, this is more of a situation that needs to be addressed over the selling of illegal sbr’s on this forum. Email Troy Carter and tell him how more anti gun legislation will not affect anything due to the number of guns in circulation already
     

    thperez1972

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    Sooo just curious… what’s the diff, we have alwasy been able to sell a “pistol” with a brace and a “ stock” in the photo with package…. Didn’t mean it was an sbr… so why can’t we sell a “pistol” with the brace off and as a package also?

    You can sell a “pistol” with the brace off and as a package. You just can't advertise it on the board because rules.
     
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