Will Hayden arrested again TODAY

[bigtattoo79]

No, I'm not. I had skimmed through and remember seeing vague accusatory statements towards Flem, and a bunch of people outright stating that it's /fact/ that Kris was tolerant of the whole going-on as if he'd known. He and I never got along, that's for sure, but I haven't seen anything that made me think he was /involved/ and that's a mighty strong accusation to make toward someone. That's all I was saying. While we /do/ have a disgusting evil discovered, let's try not to smear the character of people who only had the misfortune of knowing the guy. Unless you know someone the rest of us don't.

You posted that you got to page 9 then skipped around. But now I see you just skimmed though.

I have not seen anything said about the people your talking about until they started posting online.

If Steph was a victim. I would think when Will got the 1st charge it hit home for her. She told Chris and they said what they had to in the open while talking to the police in the back room.

I don't think Flem or Vince would have hid that **** for any amount of money!

I still hope to find out the charges against Will are all BS and lies but more and more I really do think it's all gonna be true. I hope that child gets the needed help.


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[Emperor]

You posted that you got to page 9 then skipped around. But now I see you just skimmed though.

I have not seen anything said about the people your talking about until they started posting online.

If Steph was a victim. I would think when Will got the 1st charge it hit home for her. She told Chris and they said what they had to in the open while talking to the police in the back room.

I don't think Flem or Vince would have hid that **** for any amount of money!

I still hope to find out the charges against Will are all BS and lies but more and more I really do think it's all gonna be true. I hope that child gets the needed help.


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Now, now! You stay out of this! When spec50trout wakes up, he will want to handle this.

 

[SeventhSon]

Shhhhhh, be vewy, vewy qwiet........I'm hunting wapists.

 

[Vermiform]

RJF website is offline now, probably in lieu of a fire sale. Probably going to be some really low prices soon on anything branded RJF.


In related news....
I hear they already have their little girls shirts 1/2 off..........

 

[bigtattoo79]

In related news....
I hear they already have their little girls shirts 1/2 off..........

That's sick!!


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[Leonidas]

RJF website is offline now, probably in lieu of a fire sale. Probably going to be some really low prices soon on anything branded RJF.


In related news....
I hear they already have their little girls shirts 1/2 off..........

That is sooooo wrong. I lmao.

 

[madwabbit]

I'm not insinuating anybody covered anything up. What I'm saying is nobody cared so much that dude was a pedophile, bc based on statements his own daughter made public she knew, when he via the show was making them money. I find it very odd that now that the $$ Train Derailed people are Coming forward saying they knew/have known.

This is my entire standpoint. If you knew and just kept your mouth shut until the cash stopped flowing, its downright criminal. If they didn't, they should stop saying they did because it's hurting their reputations worse than Will's at this point. It's just watching a white trash royal rumble and letting them all hang themselves- frankly the whole situation should be an embarrassment for anyone involved, and if I was affiliated with them in any way I'd cut ties immediately. - you know, as opposed to defending them in any way.

let the courts hash it out, and if guilty I hope he spends the rest of his days face down and tail up in a federal prison. if these clowns testify that they had prior knowledge about it, I hope they are tried as well.

 

[Vsotok10]

Did RJF ever do a "neva been dun befoe" chasity belt?

 

[Emperor]

This is my entire standpoint. If you knew and just kept your mouth shut until the cash stopped flowing, its downright criminal. If they didn't, they should stop saying they did because it's hurting their reputations worse than Will's at this point. It's just watching a white trash royal rumble and letting them all hang themselves- frankly the whole situation should be an embarrassment for anyone involved, and if I was affiliated with them in any way I'd cut ties immediately. - you know, as opposed to defending them in any way.

let the courts hash it out, and if guilty I hope he spends the rest of his days face down and tail up in a federal prison. if these clowns testify that they had prior knowledge about it, I hope they are tried as well.

Show me a case of rape/incest where the family members (even in-laws), were ever prosecuted for suspecting (even strongly believing), one of their family members was actively doing this and did nothing about it; unless they were actively involved.

This inner family **** throws all kinds of monkey wrenches in the legal wheels.

And why don't we have a damn real detective or prosecutor on here?

 

[Vsotok10]

And why don't we have a damn real detective or prosecutor on here?

Lets not complicate things here

 

[nola_]

http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2014/08/nonverbal-communication-analysis-no_28.html

Nonverbal Communication Analysis No. 2933: Will Hayden ("Sons of Gun") Arrested - Body Language of His Mug Shot (PHOTO)

William Hayden, the star of Discovery Channel's "Sons of Guns" was arrested on Tuesday 26 August 2014. He has been charged with aggravated rape of a 12 year-old girl. Hayden is being held on a $250,000 bond. Earlier this month (9 August) he was arrested and charged with child molestation and crimes against nature and later released on $150,000 bail. These allegations are sickening beyond words.

The body language displayed in Hayden's "mug shot" (above) is significant in several ways. Although the camera angle is oblique and directed upwards, he is exhibiting mild facial asymmetry consistent with contempt. This particular angle makes his left nostril seem more dilated than it is - and thus makes a complete nonverbal evaluation somewhat difficult. Yet his left nostril is still more flared than his right side. This detail is betrayed by the slight elevation of his left upper lip along with a subtle upward contraction of his left cheek (and an asymmetrical eyelid closure) as well as a relatively greater deepening on his left of the furrow running from just above the nostril to lateral to the corner of the mouth (nasolabial fold). This cluster of findings results in a mild "snarl" appearance and indicates the emotion of contempt.

Another finding of particular note is the partial bilateral closure of his eyelids (slight more on his left). This is notable because of the tightening of his lower eyelids (along with the lack of lower eyelid, concave-up furrows). It's a contempt amplifier and also is an important nonverbal signal which accompanies anger.

His eyebrows are also lowered - further indicating the emotion of anger.

The absence of the lateral portion of each eyebrow suggests the possibility of hypothyroidism (very easy to medically test for), Trichotillomania (of which he has no other physical signs but is possible) - or the deliberate removal of this portion of his eyebrows (either by shaving or laser). Some people (primarily men) have been known to remove the outer eyebrows in an effort to deliberately give a more angry and ominous appearance.

We all occasionally feel and thus display emotions contempt and disgust. Yet those who chronically show nonverbal signs of these emotions have a significantly higher tendency towards violence. Thus the recognition of these and other body language signs are extremely valuable in the prevention of sexual assault and as well as overall threat assessment tools. Do not ignore them.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Show me a case of rape/incest where the family members (even in-laws), were ever prosecuted for suspecting (even strongly believing), one of their family members was actively doing this and did nothing about it; unless they were actively involved.

This inner family **** throws all kinds of monkey wrenches in the legal wheels.

And why don't we have a damn real detective or prosecutor on here?

We have several real detectives on here you guys just generally choose to ignore them.

 

[JR1572]

We have several real detectives on here you guys just generally choose to ignore them.

Correct. That's one of the reasons why I don't post much here anymore.

JR1572

 

[Emperor]

We have several real detectives on here you guys just generally choose to ignore them.

Correct. That's one of the reasons why I don't post much here anymore.

JR1572

I'm all ears on my question. And I'll restate it for clarity.

Dear Mr. BS Detective or Criminal Prosecutor,

Now that I know you are here; Can a family member/acquaintance/family friend be charged as an accessory after the fact in the event that he/she had prior knowledge of rape/incest and did not come forth?

Thank You.

PS: I would also like a Saints #1 playoff seed locked up by Christmas.

Side note: Being somewhat knowledgeable on how the justice system works, and how legal ease works, I think my Saints #1 seed has a better chance.

 

[DBMJR1]

Get your pitch forks here, Pitch Forks for sale, . . .

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I'm all ears on my question. And I'll restate it for clarity.

Dear Mr. BS Detective or Criminal Prosecutor,

Now that I know you are here; Can a family member/acquaintance/family friend be charged as an accessory after the fact in the event that he/she had prior knowledge of rape/incest and did not come forth?

Thank You.

PS: I would also like a Saints #1 playoff seed locked up by Christmas.

Side note: Being somewhat knowledgeable on how the justice system works, and how legal ease works, I think my Saints #1 seed has a better chance.

Yes absolutely. Last night I charged a mother who was complicit in the fathers abuse of his son by not reporting. It's a crime no different than you knowing someone had committed a murder.

 

[bigtattoo79]

Yes absolutely. Last night I charged a mother who was complicit in the fathers abuse of his son by not reporting. It's a crime no different than you knowing someone had committed a murder.

That's good to know!

If Steph was a victim of abuse could he still be charged with that if she pushes it?


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[oleheat]

Does anyone think a person shouldn't be, IF they knew something like that was occurring and chose to remain silent? My only question is how the f**k could they??

Those are the acts of a monster.

 

[JR1572]

I'm all ears on my question. And I'll restate it for clarity.

Dear Mr. BS Detective or Criminal Prosecutor,

Now that I know you are here; Can a family member/acquaintance/family friend be charged as an accessory after the fact in the event that he/she had prior knowledge of rape/incest and did not come forth?

Thank You.

PS: I would also like a Saints #1 playoff seed locked up by Christmas.

Side note: Being somewhat knowledgeable on how the justice system works, and how legal ease works, I think my Saints #1 seed has a better chance.

Yes they can be charged.

JR1572

 

[olivs260]

If Will did what is alleged, he deserves to rot in jail, then in hell. I don't see where Chris is saying he knew of the abuse before quite recently. My take on it is- Stephanie was abused when she was younger and never reported it. Then a few weeks ago, Will was arrested for abusing the younger daughter. That coming out publicly is a LOT for a former victim to handle, so instead of admitting to it, Stephanie denied that anything happened (which was wrong on her part). Some time between then and the 26th, she and her husband had some very real conversations about what happened in her past, and someone (maybe even Chris?) went to the cops, and enough evidence came to light that Will was able to be arrested and charged with the rape.

I only watched the show a few times, but I definitely saw some strife between Will and Chris. The fact that he was had already been pissed at him might not have anything to do with the rape allegations.

You guys seriously need to quit hanging a quite possibly innocent man out to dry. His wife was raped by her dad... I think he's right to have some anger, and we're wrong to accuse him of being an accessory to rape without having any evidence of it.