3 LEO Shot Dead in Home Siege.

[JBP55]

MSN

 

[hotbiggun]

RIP

 

[Gator 45/70]

Seen that earlier, RIP men.

 

[Magdump]

Wow. Like a dozen officers shot, 4 killed. Lot of questions.

 

[Magdump]

High powered rifle found on the scene. At least they didn’t start with “AR 15 assault rifle”.
This is the third Fed raid recently where someone was killed. The other two left a lot of unanswered questions and doubts. This one was reportedly over a felon in possession of a firearm. Maybe one day it’ll all come to light.

 

[Gator 45/70]

High powered rifle found on the scene. At least they didn’t start with “AR 15 assault rifle”.
This is the third Fed raid recently where someone was killed. The other two left a lot of unanswered questions and doubts. This one was reportedly over a felon in possession of a firearm. Maybe one day it’ll all come to light.

Quite possibly another Ruby Ridge/Waco raid that turned to crap and that equals bad publicity, Can't have that!

 

[machinedrummer]

it still baffles me why LEO thinks it’s a better situation to apprehend a dangerous suspect where the suspect may be at the advantage? Traffic stop, going to work, play, taking a walk, etc…? At least the suspect won’t be dug in and have access to everything he possesses to possibly kill LEO. Dunno but it seems LEO wants to use all of its cool equipment and place themselves in higher danger on a daily basis. No knock warrants etc…nobody wins. I pray for the families.

 

[Gator 45/70]

Oh snap, Another WHITE man with evil black assult weapons.

 

[machinedrummer]

odd how it’s not even headline news less than 24 hours later. I wonder why? One of life’s mysteries..

 

[thperez1972]

it still baffles me why LEO thinks it’s a better situation to apprehend a dangerous suspect where the suspect may be at the advantage? Traffic stop, going to work, play, taking a walk, etc…? At least the suspect won’t be dug in and have access to everything he possesses to possibly kill LEO. Dunno but it seems LEO wants to use all of its cool equipment and place themselves in higher danger on a daily basis. No knock warrants etc…nobody wins. I pray for the families.

I think an argument could be made against confronting the dangerous suspects out in public with innocent civilians all around. The can usually minimize the threat to the public because they do have their "cool equipment."

 

[Gator 45/70]

I think an argument could be made against confronting the dangerous suspects out in public with innocent civilians all around. The can usually minimize the threat to the public because they do have their "cool equipment."

Yeah man, Like who really here has assault equipment.

 

[thperez1972]

Yeah man, Like who really here has assault equipment.

I would suggest your reply does not effectively reflect what you meant to say.

 

[Gator 45/70]

I would suggest your reply does not effectively reflect what you meant to say.

Naah, we know who's got it going on, Ain't me fo sho!

 

[Magdump]

I think an argument could be made against confronting the dangerous suspects out in public with innocent civilians all around. The can usually minimize the threat to the public because they do have their "cool equipment."

30 minutes of gunfire in a neighborhood and LEO’s taking positions in neighboring homes doesn’t seem like minimizing any threat to me. Quite the the opposite. In fact, there are so many bad raids on the books at this point I’ve lost count. When homes are breached by gung ho men with guns, there are often unintended victims. I remember cases from the 90’s. Confronting a suspect out in the open makes way more sense if you’re smart about it. Cops are smart, they know how to plan something like that, where what you see is what you get, single him out away from the den, away from the herd and sweep in with overwhelming force. Not trying to spark an argument, just saying. At this point, cops need to try something different.

 

[Magdump]

Please don’t shoot the messenger here. These are just a collection of bad incidents happening over the years. Many are raids that went wrong. Way too many are wrong home raids. I believe no knock raids have gone on for far too long and done way too much collateral damage. I said 10 years ago that the only way it will stop is when enough LEO’s are lost in the process because so far, it doesn’t seem to matter about the innocents.

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[thperez1972]

30 minutes of gunfire in a neighborhood and LEO’s taking positions in neighboring homes doesn’t seem like minimizing any threat to me. Quite the the opposite. In fact, there are so many bad raids on the books at this point I’ve lost count. When homes are breached by gung ho men with guns, there are often unintended victims. I remember cases from the 90’s. Confronting a suspect out in the open makes way more sense if you’re smart about it. Cops are smart, they know how to plan something like that, where what you see is what you get, single him out away from the den, away from the herd and sweep in with overwhelming force. Not trying to spark an argument, just saying. At this point, cops need to try something different.

Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Magdump]

Hindsight is 20/20.

I agree.
I’m just wondering how many years of hindsight one needs to try another approach. Fodder for another thread I suppose.

 

[machinedrummer]

The real tragedy here is how fast the media coverage went from focusing on the loss of life of LE to crickets as soon as the suspects name and photo was released. They were sooo..close to having their golden ticket. Has ole Joe released a statement yet?

 

[thperez1972]

I agree.
I’m just wondering how many years of hindsight one needs to try another approach. Fodder for another thread I suppose.

For every one that goes bad, how many do not go bad?

 

[Magdump]

For every one that goes bad, how many do not go bad?

Oh boy…..
I’m just gonna leave that one alone.