CCP or Not

[Gator 45/70]

I haven't been able to find out anything definitive about concealed carry on Louisiana WMAs after July 4th....I would ASSUME you'd still need a valid CHP in order to carry there concealed, including when no active hunting season in open where centerfire pistols are allowed on the WMA....

Ha, we still have some draconian laws on the books about carrying a pistol/firearm at night while frogging.
Yep, you will be getting a ticket CCP or not packing heat while frogging. We going to hell boys!

 

[Mitch Dufour]

...for instance in my neighborhood constitutional carry is not allowed, the city has wall papered the area as gun free zones....

I am not arguing any point, just trying to understand what you are saying. Has the City passed an ordinance? "city has wall papered" sounds like they have.

I am talking about the areas with signs listed....

Not sure what you mean by this. Is there is a list on-line some where detailing places that have some sort of signage posted? What do the signs say?

 

[Jstudz220]

You may be able to constitutional carry, but a a licensed permit allows you to carry in a lot more locations and is not an open carry.

for instance in my neighborhood constitutional carry is not allowed, the city has wall papered the area as gun free zones. With a permit and concealed I am allowed.

I have several friends that think they can carry anywhere they want now.

Multiply that by all the areas you travel, get the permit, it’s worth it.

The law says with the exception of all constitutionally protected activities. Carrying a concealed firearm would fall under that. I see Gretna has them posted everywhere. Seems kinda meaningless.

I’ve been wondering the same thing. These signs are posted throughout Gretna with one directly behind academy sports in between the rouses and Academy. Seems like the city of Gretna is overstepping their boundaries and opening themselves up for some lawsuits.

 

[jpso211]

You may be able to constitutional carry, but a a licensed permit allows you to carry in a lot more locations and is not an open carry.

for instance in my neighborhood constitutional carry is not allowed, the city has wall papered the area as gun free zones. With a permit and concealed I am allowed.

I have several friends that think they can carry anywhere they want now.

Multiply that by all the areas you travel, get the permit, it’s worth it.

I'm not looking for an argument so I'm probably going to regret getting into this.

Everyone has their own opinion. If u want to make sure u get the correct information u want go to the source. Call the LA State Police CCP Division...

I'm a Gretna native, like u... But I am on North Shore now since 1980... No more City life for this Old Schooler, lol!

BTW what neighborhood do u live in (Timberlane) that post gun free zones all over it... Those signs invite trouble and allow criminals to not only run free. But they place all u citizens in harms way that live there...
That's totally ridiculous!!!...
You just might want to challenge how legal those signs are after July 4th. 2024 once the CCC State Law goes into effect...

*To get back on point:

***Here's the Facts:***
State Law Overrides Local or City Law

The Role of State Law​

The federal and state governments make laws that exist concurrently to create a balance of power. While the Supremacy Clause in the Constitution gives the federal government the power to override some state laws, this power has its limits. States are generally free to create and enforce their own laws so long as they are constitutional.

State laws typically address domestic affairs, and most areas of law are not explicitly given to Congress. The Tenth Amendment of the Constitution gives states the power to govern matters within their borders.

Typically, each state has its own executive, legislative, and judicial branches. States often have a constitution or code, a judicial system, and police power to enforce the law. State laws can address a broad range of legal issues, such as:

• Criminal and court systems
• Collecting state income or other taxes
• Family and divorce law
• Social welfare and aid programs
• Police and emergency services
• Maintenance of state highways and roads
• Local governments and delegating authority

Generally, if there is a conflict between state and local laws, state laws override municipal ordinances. Additionally, many states allow local courts to handle certain types of disputes within their own municipalities.

Personally, even though I don't need a permit because of the Constitutional Carry State Law as well as being a Vietnam Veteran, I just feel it's safer to have a permit that not...
It leaves no room for guess work!
Stay Safe!...

 

[Martman300]

I am in Old Gretna. They have them in front of Gretna PD and up and down Huey P Long too.

Talking with political officials and LEO they mentioned they were posted for the riff raff.

Some LEO say they have no issues whatsoever with either carry.

The Chief is for concealed carry and pro 2nd amendment.

In fact my 1st CWP class was done in the police precinct.

The point is why put yourself in that position. To possibly be on the wrong side of the law for being too close to a “Zone”.

 

[Mitch Dufour]

.... I see Gretna has them posted everywhere. ...

Maybe you can tell me. WHO puts those signs up? I have seen similar signs posted but recall they had a reference to the code/law/statute that backed up the language on the sign.

 

[dantheman]

Maybe you can tell me. WHO puts those signs up? I have seen similar signs posted but recall they had a reference to the code/law/statute that backed up the language on the sign.

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It's also illegal to post signs on utility poles .

 

[frankinola]

It looks like it is part of their local law.

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Sec. 16-106. - Illegal carrying of weapons.







(a)

Illegal carrying of weapons is:

(1)

The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person;

There is no exception if you have a state permit it appears.

 

[Jstudz220]

I was born and raised there but the folks in power there now seem to lean way left....
If u allow the people elected to serve u to instead rule over u. Then why did so many of us fight and die for ur freedom if u weren't going to elect people that represent u and ur interest instead of their own...
Freedom isn't free. Please don't let it be taken for granted and allow such foolishness.
Stand up for ur rights, They are God given.
It is ur duty to insure them for yourselves and future generations. Stand the line!
Vote them out!

Brother…. Who are you addressing here? I don’t live in Gretna and never have.

 

[Jstudz220]

Maybe you can tell me. WHO puts those signs up? I have seen similar signs posted but recall they had a reference to the code/law/statute that backed up the language on the sign.

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I have no idea who puts them up. I see them all over Gretna when visiting though and not just by schools. They are littered throughout.

 

[jdindadell]

I'm going to "go there" and suggest open carry as a solution. Just tuck in your polo into your slacks and make sure you don't have any facial hair. Everyone will just think you are some sort of fed and give you a wide berth. Driving a dark colored suv will help, especially if it has tint and out of state plates.

 

[CyberSlacker]

Chinese Communist Party?
What?!

Damn! permits too? You really do have to get everything from China.

 

[CyberSlacker]

Maybe you can tell me. WHO puts those signs up? I have seen similar signs posted but recall they had a reference to the code/law/statute that backed up the language on the sign.

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Correction: FIREARM FREE ZONE; for law abiding citizens ONLY!

 

[lord labor]

From all I have read it states citizens can carry concealed

Yes they all refer to citizens but do they mean us citizens or the state citizens

 

[SwampyDog]

Yes they all refer to citizens but do they mean us citizens or the state citizens

I'll answer this one more time. The only permitless carry state with a state resident only provision is North Dakota.

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/terminology/types-of-concealed-carry-licensurepermitting-policies/unrestricted/

 

[jpso211]

Brother…. Who are you addressing here? I don’t live in Gretna and never have.

I was addressing Martman 300
Sorry about that! Guess it was user error! Or possibly a brain fart from an older citizen, lol...
Sorry about that, my friend...

 

[Helmsman]

It looks like it is part of their local law.

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Sec. 16-106. - Illegal carrying of weapons.

(a)

Illegal carrying of weapons is:

(1)

The intentional concealment of any firearm, or other instrumentality customarily used or intended for probable use as a dangerous weapon, on one's person;

There is no exception if you have a state permit it appears.

I beleive SB194 aka Act 59 takes care of this. 6 months after 8/1/24 it should be gone.