Constitutional Carry Bill SB1 will be RS? (Now going to be the Law!)

[dantheman]

I have been doing this and preaching it for years. I admittedly had a lead foot in the past and have had more than a few tickets because of it. Every single time I let the officer know I was armed within the first few seconds, often before they even had a chnace to get past introducing themseleves. You could literally see the appreciation on their faces and the gears shift in their mentality. I've had various responses, but not a single negative one. Informing in a polite manner, without saying "I have gun", keeps EVERYONE safer. My mentality at the time was "Just because you don't have to, doesn't mean you shouldn't".
I may have missed it, but will duty to inform roll over to anyone with a gun in the vehicle as opposed just to on their person?

Well there was this time my son was stopped in St. Francisville . The Officer took his Glock , field stripped it , and threw the pieces on the back seat . Then the dumbass wrote him a ticket and didn't put a Court date on it . My son had a chat with the Mayor and had the ticket dismissed .
And an apology .

 

[AustinBR]

Well there was this time my son was stopped in St. Francisville . The Officer took his Glock , field stripped it , and threw the pieces on the back seat . Then the dumbass wrote him a ticket and didn't put a Court date on it . My son had a chat with the Mayor and had the ticket dismissed .
And an apology .

When I hear stories like this it just makes me scratch my head. Why would a cop break down a pistol? Makes no sense.

 

[dantheman]

When I hear stories like this it just makes me scratch my head. Why would a cop break down a pistol? Makes no sense.

It's an authority and control thing for some . THOSE are the ones that have no business with a badge . Thank God they are in the minority .

 

[AustinBR]

It's an authority and control thing for some . THOSE are the ones that have no business with a badge . Thank God they are in the minority .

I imagine this behavior has diminished a lot nowadays with the prevalent use of body cameras, dash cams, and people recording on cellphones.

Tis a good reason for everyone to have front and back dash cams, among other reasons.

 

[Bigchillin83]

When I hear stories like this it just makes me scratch my head. Why would a cop break down a pistol? Makes no sense.

I had an ascension parish cop 20+ years ago tell me he was gonna take my magazine and ammo, for his saftey… after a long argument and me requesting a sup. We agreed to disagree that he would take my ammo and put it in my trunk…. Just a power trip man.. that all it is, don’t try to make sense outta it lol

 

[charlie12]

the restaurant thing was in previous years permitless carry bills. i do not see the restaurant retriction thats going to the govs desk.

you do still need to inform an officer if you are carrying with or without a permit.

I know about informing the LEO. I've had a CHP since they started

 

[charlie12]

Okay, well that's just silly.


Link?

*If approached in an official capacity*

Bearco training

 

[GunRelated]

No gun laws means a child could own a gun and bring it with him to school to put under his pillow during nap time. To say I can take that how I wish implies that I'm welcome to interpret your meaning however I want, even if that interpretation differs from your intended meaning. What I wish is for you to be explicit in your position so we do not misinterpret what you are saying.

Not so fast.
We already have different properties where firearms are prohibited, that are not necessarily prohibited due to law. If a kid brings his gun to school, have him escorted off the property and disciplined however deemed necessary.

Got another example of why it'd be silly to follow the Constitution?

 

[dantheman]

Not so fast.
We already have different properties where firearms are prohibited, that are not necessarily prohibited due to law. If a kid brings his gun to school, have him escorted off the property and disciplined however deemed necessary.

Got another example of why it'd be silly to follow the Constitution?

You're assuming nothing bad happened with that gun .

 

[SVT Bansheeman]

Not so fast.
We already have different properties where firearms are prohibited, that are not necessarily prohibited due to law. If a kid brings his gun to school, have him escorted off the property and disciplined however deemed necessary.

Bingo.

Saying kids will shoot each other in elementary class to me is no different than the typical anti gun propaganda. Just because it's a constitutional right doesn't mean there can not be a rule in the location. It doesn't automatically mean we can and will arm children.

 

[GunRelated]

You're assuming nothing bad happened with that gun .

You're assuming a law would have prevented the gun from being there in the first place.

 

[dantheman]

You're assuming a law would have prevented the gun from being there in the first place.

Maybe the consequences would be more serious for all involved .

 

[GunRelated]

Maybe the consequences would be more serious for all involved .

There are already consequences in place that cover this, that are not gun laws which merely give the idea of safety.

If someone endangers or harms another person, there is a law for that, rightfully so.
If someone's young kid endangers or harms another person, there are already consequences in place that cover this as well, rightfully so.

No, gun laws do not prevent harm, contrary to the brainwashing that the authoritarian state would have you feared into believing.

 

[dantheman]

There are already consequences in place that cover this, that are not gun laws which merely give the idea of safety.

If someone endangers or harms another person, there is a law for that, rightfully so.
If someone's young kid endangers or harms another person, there are already consequences in place that cover this as well, rightfully so.

No, gun laws do not prevent harm, contrary to the brainwashing that the authoritarian state would have you feared into believing.

I'm not in fear , trust me . So what other laws and rules do you find unconstitutional ? Drivers License requirement ? Income taxes ? No free health care ? Private property laws ? How about prescriptions for narcotics , do those trample on your rights ? I'm curious where YOUR boundaries are .

 

[GunRelated]

I'm not in fear , trust me . So what other laws and rules do you find unconstitutional ? Drivers License requirement ? Income taxes ? No free health care ? Private property laws ? How about prescriptions for narcotics , do those trample on your rights ? I'm curious where YOUR boundaries are .

I'm afraid my view of human rights / constitutionality would be lost on most people, but we are not on the subject of those rights at the moment.

You say you are not in fear, but you fear that if we had no gun laws, kids would bring their guns to school without consequences, leading to a bunch of dead kids at school.

Crazy how powerful a state's propaganda can be, right? We will have succumbed to it, without even noticing.

 

[thperez1972]

Which of the restrictions would need to go away to make it a true "constitutional carry" in your opinion?

All restrictions.

Like the age restriction? Are you suggesting it won't be true "constitutional carry" unless every kid in kindergarten is allowed to be strapped in class?

I said no gun laws. You can take that how you wish.

No gun laws means a child could own a gun and bring it with him to school to put under his pillow during nap time. To say I can take that how I wish implies that I'm welcome to interpret your meaning however I want, even if that interpretation differs from your intended meaning. What I wish is for you to be explicit in your position so we do not misinterpret what you are saying.

Not so fast.
We already have different properties where firearms are prohibited, that are not necessarily prohibited due to law. If a kid brings his gun to school, have him escorted off the property and disciplined however deemed necessary.

Got another example of why it'd be silly to follow the Constitution?

My reply was not a general reply, but rather a reply to a specific opinion. The only way to prohibit guns at a location is to enforce it with a law. Look at Walmart. They prohibit firearms but carrying a firearm on their property carries zero legal consequences. But that's private property. What about public property? In order to be true "constitutional carry", you cool with a couple of 9 year olds with gats at the local park arguing over whose turn it is on the swing?

 

[GunRelated]

My reply was not a general reply, but rather a reply to a specific opinion. The only way to prohibit guns at a location is to enforce it with a law. Look at Walmart. They prohibit firearms but carrying a firearm on their property carries zero legal consequences. But that's private property. What about public property? In order to be true "constitutional carry", you cool with a couple of 9 year olds with gats at the local park arguing over whose turn it is on the swing?

Well, let's take a trip back in time to see how this played out, shall we?
There was a time in the relatively, not so distant past, when we followed the 2nd amendment as it was written.

Kids existed, schools existed, parks existed, grocery stores existed, and the 2nd amendment in it's truest form also existed, together, in harmony.
Kids could go to their local hardware store and buy a machine gun if they so chose, or they could mail order one if they were too far from a vendor.
I don't recall reading or hearing about the horrific atrocities attributed to people, or kids, exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

So, it seems like the problem, or the fear, in question here, is not the 2nd amendment.

 

[thperez1972]

There are already consequences in place that cover this, that are not gun laws which merely give the idea of safety.

If someone endangers or harms another person, there is a law for that, rightfully so.
If someone's young kid endangers or harms another person, there are already consequences in place that cover this as well, rightfully so.

No, gun laws do not prevent harm, contrary to the brainwashing that the authoritarian state would have you feared into believing.

Not every law will prevent harm and not all harm can be prevented by laws. But it's wrong to saw that no laws will prevent harm.

 

[thperez1972]

Well, let's take a trip back in time to see how this played out, shall we?
There was a time in the relatively, not so distant past, when we followed the 2nd amendment as it was written.

Kids existed, schools existed, parks existed, grocery stores existed, and the 2nd amendment in it's truest form also existed, together, in harmony.
Kids could go to their local hardware store and buy a machine gun if they so chose, or they could mail order one if they were too far from a vendor.
I don't recall reading or hearing about the horrific atrocities attributed to people, or kids, exercising their 2nd amendment rights.

So, it seems like the problem, or the fear, in question here, is not the 2nd amendment.

They used to teach shooting skills in school. I think they should go back to that. I think gun safety should be taught from an early age. I'm a firm believer that my kids should not find guns taboo. If they want to see one of my guns, we look at them in a safe way so they get used to handling. But I also believe that the 10 year old should not be allowed to carry a glock to class. I do not believe his 2nd amendment rights are infringed by that restriction being imposed.

 

[Bigchillin83]

lol