Constitutional Carry Bill SB1 will be RS? (Now going to be the Law!)

[cbbr]

I think the same laws apply to permit holders as well as those that don't have the permit.

I hope that you are correct, but that is a devil in the details that remains to be seen. It would be easy for them to declare CC legal but not change the "proximity" rules and still claim victory.

 

[Bigchillin83]

Maybe not ideal but any baby step towards constitutional carry is a victory… cannot win the war in a day, it’s about the battles… we prob wouldn't be here right now if we wouldn’t have won a few smaller battles with gun rights and constitutional carry in Louisiana…

 

[hdfinder47]

IIRC (and often I do not) the "1000' from a school zone" was changed to "into school grounds" a while back. Still understand your point though.

 

[Bigchillin83]

IIRC (and often I do not) the "1000' from a school zone" was changed to "into school grounds" a while back. Still understand your point though.

that is correct... there is also exceptions to having it in your vehicle on school property, the days of being scared of driving though a school zone with your hunting rifle or a pistol have been long gone

 

[Mitch Dufour]

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Look closely at those that oppose it here; you'll find a "D" or a democrat bent associated with them somewhere; even if they call themselves republicans to get elected.

... or stand to profit from the mandatory permit system. And let's not forget LEO groups leadership. Look at the history of opposition to Constitutional Carry in Louisiana and you will find the LEO organizations historically fought it year after year.

 

[chibajoe]

It cleared the committee, so now goes to the floor. Gov. has said he will sign it if it gets to his desk.

 

[AustinBR]

It cleared the committee, so now goes to the floor. Gov. has said he will sign it if it gets to his desk.

What are the timelines for next steps?

 

[Emperor]

2024 Second Extraordinary Session
Sequence: 4 INTRODUCTION OF SBS
SB 1 BY MIGUEZ
WEAPONS
OR DECREASE SD RV SEE NOTE
REFER TO COMMITTEE
Date: 2/19/2024
Time: 3:40:21 PM

ROLL CALL
The roll was called with the following result:
YEAS
Mr. President Abraham Allain Bass Cathey Connick Coussan Edmonds Fesi Foil Hensgens
Hodges Jackson-Andrews Kleinpeter Lambert McMath Miguez Miller Mizell Morris Owen
Pressly Reese Seabaugh Stine Talbot Wheat Womack
Total -- 28

NAYS
Barrow (black democrat)
Boudreaux (black democrat)
Bouie (black democrat)
Carter (black democrat)
Duplessis (black democrat)
Fields (black democrat)
Harris (black democrat)
Jenkins (black democrat)
Luneau (white douche democrat)
Price (black democrat)
Total -- 10

ABSENT
Cloud
Total -- 1


Can someone? Anyone? Please tell me what the "real" reason is that only black democrats and 1 white democrat douche, is against this? No one EVER explains on the record what the real reason is for opposing this. Their arguments are always unfounded, but there they are.

They say it will only put more guns on the streets! But criminals already have guns, and law abiding citizens are of all races and ethnicity's. Are they assuming that law abiding blacks here in Louisiana are too stupid to defend themselves?
They say it will make people less safe! Who? Criminals shot by law abiding citizens during the commission of a crime on the law abiding citizen?

They say it will endanger police more! Don't police assume that every stop of a citizen is potentially dangerous already?

Remember, democrats believe whatever the democrat party tells them to believe. This is not about safety! It NEVER is! Their opposition to anything that affords more liberty to an American citizen is an affront to their power. This is about their power over their constituents and the desire to have total control of the citizenry without fear of reprisal. Their unfettered allegiance to the whims and will of the democrat party are always about keeping their power and favoritism within the democrat cabal!

So sad!

 

[Emperor]

What are the timelines for next steps?

It was approved and moved out of the Senate revenue and fiscal committee this morning. I believe it moves to a House committee next. That should be before the weekend. Then it will go to the House floor. If they don't amend it (f**k it up), it goes to Landry.

It may have one more committee in between there somewhere, but it is sailing along. This Session has to be wrapped up by March 6.

 

[Sodoodle]

I am a little more interested in SB2. https://legis.la.gov/legis/BillInfo.aspx?i=245606

LIABILITY: Provides relative to liability for persons authorized to carry a concealed handgun. (gov sig) (Item #19)

What is this about?

 

[AustinBR]

It was approved and moved out of the Senate revenue and fiscal committee this morning. I believe it moves to a House committee next. That should be before the weekend. Then it will go to the House floor. If they don't amend it (f**k it up), it goes to Landry.

It may have one more committee in between there somewhere, but it is sailing along. This Session has to be wrapped up by March 6.

Solid! Mind keeping us updated since you clearly know better than me?

 

[Peacemaker]

Everything is looking good for the law to pass. Should be in effect April 19, 2024.

Nothing more to see here.

Glad we have a God fearing, law and order American patriot as our Governor now!

One step closer to getting our state back on the path of honesty, integrity, and prosperity for all hard-working, law-abiding citizens of Louisiana!

 

[chibajoe]

2024 Second Extraordinary Session
Sequence: 4 INTRODUCTION OF SBS
SB 1 BY MIGUEZ
WEAPONS
OR DECREASE SD RV SEE NOTE
REFER TO COMMITTEE
Date: 2/19/2024
Time: 3:40:21 PM

ROLL CALL
The roll was called with the following result:
YEAS
Mr. President Abraham Allain Bass Cathey Connick Coussan Edmonds Fesi Foil Hensgens
Hodges Jackson-Andrews Kleinpeter Lambert McMath Miguez Miller Mizell Morris Owen
Pressly Reese Seabaugh Stine Talbot Wheat Womack
Total -- 28

NAYS
Barrow (black democrat)
Boudreaux (black democrat)
Bouie (black democrat)
Carter (black democrat)
Duplessis (black democrat)
Fields (black democrat)
Harris (black democrat)
Jenkins (black democrat)
Luneau (white douche democrat)
Price (black democrat)
Total -- 10

ABSENT
Cloud
Total -- 1


Can someone? Anyone? Please tell me what the "real" reason is that only black democrats and 1 white democrat douche, is against this? No one EVER explains on the record what the real reason is for opposing this. Their arguments are always unfounded, but there they are.

They say it will only put more guns on the streets! But criminals already have guns, and law abiding citizens are of all races and ethnicity's. Are they assuming that law abiding blacks here in Louisiana are too stupid to defend themselves?
They say it will make people less safe! Who? Criminals shot by law abiding citizens during the commission of a crime on the law abiding citizen?

They say it will endanger police more! Don't police assume that every stop of a citizen is potentially dangerous already?

Remember, democrats believe whatever the democrat party tells them to believe. This is not about safety! It NEVER is! Their opposition to anything that affords more liberty to an American citizen is an affront to their power. This is about their power over their constituents and the desire to have total control of the citizenry without fear of reprisal. Their unfettered allegiance to the whims and will of the democrat party are always about keeping their power and favoritism within the democrat cabal!

So sad!

Probably because they don't like Miguez. He comes across like a very pro 2nd fundamentalist. Barrow tried to add an amendment to restore gun rights to felons, thinking that would **** him off. Miguez said it was a great idea and he'd love to work with her to author a new bill to introduce that.

 

[chibajoe]

What is this about?

Limits liability for CCP defensive shooting, I believe.

 

[jcbvh]

2024 Second Extraordinary Session
Sequence: 4 INTRODUCTION OF SBS
SB 1 BY MIGUEZ
WEAPONS
OR DECREASE SD RV SEE NOTE
REFER TO COMMITTEE
Date: 2/19/2024
Time: 3:40:21 PM

ROLL CALL
The roll was called with the following result:
YEAS
Mr. President Abraham Allain Bass Cathey Connick Coussan Edmonds Fesi Foil Hensgens
Hodges Jackson-Andrews Kleinpeter Lambert McMath Miguez Miller Mizell Morris Owen
Pressly Reese Seabaugh Stine Talbot Wheat Womack
Total -- 28

NAYS
Barrow (black democrat)
Boudreaux (black democrat)
Bouie (black democrat)
Carter (black democrat)
Duplessis (black democrat)
Fields (black democrat)
Harris (black democrat)
Jenkins (black democrat)
Luneau (white douche democrat)
Price (black democrat)
Total -- 10

ABSENT
Cloud
Total -- 1


Can someone? Anyone? Please tell me what the "real" reason is that only black democrats and 1 white democrat douche, is against this? No one EVER explains on the record what the real reason is for opposing this. Their arguments are always unfounded, but there they are.

They say it will only put more guns on the streets! But criminals already have guns, and law abiding citizens are of all races and ethnicity's. Are they assuming that law abiding blacks here in Louisiana are too stupid to defend themselves?
They say it will make people less safe! Who? Criminals shot by law abiding citizens during the commission of a crime on the law abiding citizen?

They say it will endanger police more! Don't police assume that every stop of a citizen is potentially dangerous already?

Remember, democrats believe whatever the democrat party tells them to believe. This is not about safety! It NEVER is! Their opposition to anything that affords more liberty to an American citizen is an affront to their power. This is about their power over their constituents and the desire to have total control of the citizenry without fear of reprisal. Their unfettered allegiance to the whims and will of the democrat party are always about keeping their power and favoritism within the democrat cabal!

So sad!

Because they suck Soros/Bloomturd/DNC you know what, and they are getting paid to do it.
Black people would benefit just as much as anyone if not more when this passes.
Black leadership sells their souls to Ben Franklin and for a seat at the table at the expense of the people they represent.

 

[chibajoe]

that is correct... there is also exceptions to having it in your vehicle on school property, the days of being scared of driving though a school zone with your hunting rifle or a pistol have been long gone

Just to be clear, this exception is for CCP holders only, it does not apply to constitutional carry. You are still prohibited from carrying within 1000 feet of a school or in an establishment that sells alcohol for consumption unless you have a permit.

 

[AustinBR]

Just to be clear, this exception is for CCP holders only, it does not apply to constitutional carry. You are still prohibited from carrying within 1000 feet of a school or in an establishment that sells alcohol for consumption unless you have a permit.

To be even clearer:
Louisiana doesn't have a CCP, it has a CHP.
The CHP allows you to carry within 1000ft of a school, but not on school property.

Anyone who is legally allowed to possess a firearm (not felons) may keep a firearm within their vehicle on school property.

 

[chibajoe]

To be even clearer:
Louisiana doesn't have a CCP, it has a CHP.
The CHP allows you to carry within 1000ft of a school, but not on school property.

Anyone who is legally allowed to possess a firearm (not felons) may keep a firearm within their vehicle on school property.

True, one of the amendments to SB1 was to clear up some of the wording to put it in line with the wording in the CHP legislation. They mentioned it was to distinguish between carrying a knife and a handgun, which I thought was a little odd.

 

[Fordfella]

Anyone who is legally allowed to possess a firearm (not felons) may keep a firearm within their vehicle on school property.

This does not apply if this school is being used as a poling place.

 

[Bigchillin83]

Clear as mudd