Bangswitch
Well-Known Member
If you were speeding for the mile before a wreck, the insurance company could say you are partially at fault because you shouldn't have been in the intersection when the other guy ran the stop sign. Whether they reduce your payout or raise your rates, that little device is there to help out the insurance company, not you. You may benefit from it but that's not why they advertise it. And like you, I would never put one in my vehicle.
Back to the denial. I believe you are inflating the issue to support your claim. The law says the dealer must report a possible crime to the police. I would suggest it is reasonable to say that before it is investigated, there's no way to know if the denial were a mistake or legitimate so it can be viewed as a possible crime. So the dealer notifies the police. Let's pretend I'm the police. I know the denial is either a mistake or legitimate. I'm not dropping everything and rushing out with blue lights and sirens to escort you out of the establishment. That's too much work. I'm going to run your name and look at your state rap sheet. If there's nothing to suggest you were a prohibited person, I may run a triple I to see if anything shows up in another state. If I see a CHP on your rap sheet, I have to assume there's nothing in your record up to the date the CHP was issued. All of this points to a mistake rather than a legitimate denial. I'm logging it with the explanation as to why no further investigation is needed.
If the rap sheet indicates you are a prohibited person, I may head over to the dealer. If you're there, I'll talk to you. While I know a crime may have been committed and information suggests they have, I may not be able to rely solely on the rap sheet for various reasons I won't fully explain. The short version is the information on the rap sheet is pretty accurate but nothing can be inferred by information not on the rap sheet. I may have to visit the courthouse to get minutes to show you were convicted of a felony. If I show up and you are still there and you confess you are a prohibited person, you'll be escorted out, likely in handcuffs.
Although many people get escorted out of stores for many reasons, being denied in and of itself would likely not be one of them. And because many people get escorted out of stores for many reasons, that would not alert people to the fact you just bought a gun. One big reason for that is you can't buy a gun if you were denied.
That last part is a bit of an aside. I find it distasteful to be escorted out like I had done something wrong when I buy a gun a Walmart or Academy. That’s if everything goes through and you get to go home with a gun you are escorted from the store by management (not the police or anything) but for me it send the wrong message and since they hand you a box at the door not in a shopping bag anyone watching the door from the parking lot know you just bought a gun and guess what. It ain’t loaded and everyone knows it.
But I don’t want to drag this off topic further, so what you are saying is the investigation is pretty basic and rarely even done in person lowering the likelihood of a conflict occurring from a non-criminal with a-government-phobia (prescribed amounts is healthy).
But, again there is still a fair amount of autonomy lost from this. It sounds to be mostly unseen but it still takes place. I think that is a large portion on the sentiment surrounding this subject as well, is the loss of autonomy. The fact that guns are more efficient tools makes people uncomfortable with unfettered access, but we have given away freedom for the hope of security. And this hope of security may prove itself a danger when the leftist win a get a ban.