^^^^^^^ Not trying to stir the pot of hate and discontent but I am not against the passing of the constitutional carry bill. What I was refering to as to those not being able to pass the current requirements for concealed carry. Having a arrest record in their past even if for some minor misdemeanor offense and cannot get proof of outcome thru the courts because maybe from another state or being long time removed. Maybe have a divorce decree and outcome paperwork not available , maybe a domestic family issue , maybe under doctors care with certain medications being prescribed that are on a restricted list , maybe a long ago substance abuse problem that has been addressed and cleaned up , and even the money cost of the chp for some wanting to have one. I am sure that there are some current chp holders in possession of said permit that should not be allowed for different reasons but untill they step out of line and do something stupid they will stay current. Maybe they fell like they do not want big brother to be ever so involved in their lives. Why do we judge another persons actions or intent untill you have walked in their shoes. .................................................................... drill sgt.Can you explain the reasoning behind your honest belief? I believe the contrary, in that I shouldn’t need special permission or pay the government for the right to practice a God given right as guaranteed by the 2nd amendment of our constitution and I’m pretty sure that’s the driving force behind this bill, but I’ll consider other explanations. I would think that someone who, as you say, cannot pass current requirements would also likely not be legally able to own a handgun anyway? In which case the passing of such a law wouldn’t help their cause at all, correct?
I’m eager to learn what requirements you’re speaking of that these folks can’t pass if they’re indeed legally able to own a handgun. Can’t afford the permit? Can’t afford the class? Can’t physically or mentally pass the class? Can’t approach the Sheriffs office without being arrested on outstanding warrants? Not trying to incite a BS special or anything. I’m just curious.
I hear ya. I’m sure there are those who’d carry that would be a risk as well. But I don’t think the voice of those unable to obtain a CHP for legal reasons now is the push behind the bill at all. Also, I’m thinking many or most of those are likely denied the right to have a handgun in their possession already from the list you gave. I have a friend that has has a few months left until he can retrieve his firearms from a family member because his ex found a sympathetic ear in a judge and was able to secure a protective order on her word alone, although it was completely unwarranted. This law wouldn’t help him at all.^^^^^^^ Not trying to stir the pot of hate and discontent but I am not against the passing of the constitutional carry bill. What I was refering to as to those not being able to pass the current requirements for concealed carry. Having a arrest record in their past even if for some minor misdemeanor offense and cannot get proof of outcome thru the courts because maybe from another state or being long time removed. Maybe have a divorce decree and outcome paperwork not available , maybe a domestic family issue , maybe under doctors care with certain medications being prescribed that are on a restricted list , maybe a long ago substance abuse problem that has been addressed and cleaned up , and even the money cost of the chp for some wanting to have one. I am sure that there are some current chp holders in possession of said permit that should not be allowed for different reasons but untill they step out of line and do something stupid they will stay current. Maybe they fell like they do not want big brother to be ever so involved in their lives. Why do we judge another persons actions or intent untill you have walked in their shoes. .................................................................... drill sgt.
Not signing it and vetoing it are two different things. It’s my understanding that if the Gov does nothing, it becomes law 20 days after it hits his desk as the Legislature is now out of sessionJBE was on the news repeatedly saying he will NOT sign it...
If he vetos, it will take a *veto* session of the legislature and 2/3 majority vote in favor of the legislation in this special session to make it law
Couldn’t agree moreIt's unconstitutional to infringe upon a free citizens right to bear arms period in the USA. Its a great awakening by citizens and states are falling in line, and the Supreme Court has already affirmed this. Sadly thousands of such unconstitutional codes muddy the waters and bureaucrats believe they have the right to infringe upon these guaranteed and protected rights.
The question is how these bureaucrats can be held responsible. In most cases they are either recalled or fired at worst. I've heard there is a law in Florida that provides for a fine up to $5K for unconstitutional laws or something like this. Could be a good direction...It's unconstitutional to infringe upon a free citizens right to bear arms period in the USA. Its a great awakening by citizens and states are falling in line, and the Supreme Court has already affirmed this. Sadly thousands of such unconstitutional codes muddy the waters and bureaucrats believe they have the right to infringe upon these guaranteed and protected rights.
There’s a federal law that says anyone violating constitutional rights under color of law is guilty of a felony. It has indeed been enforced on occasion. Not a light penalty either.The question is how these bureaucrats can be held responsible. In most cases they are either recalled or fired at worst. I've heard there is a law in Florida that provides for a fine up to $5K for unconstitutional laws or something like this. Could be a good direction...
GFL getting any court to convict anyone in power or well connected.There’s a federal law that says anyone violating constitutional rights under color of law is guilty of a felony. It has indeed been enforced on occasion. Not a light penalty either.