Thread title: Help with vehicle gun issues
CloudStrife doesn’t have a CCW permit so we’ll assume that he is not carrying a gun. BUT, he has a gun that he keeps in his vehicle…
While trying to focus on just the vehicle gun aspect of his situation, let’s collectively troubleshoot his situation in order to help him make the most of it.
At the same time we’ll be helping others make wise choices that could very well save a life.
Quick note: I am by no means an expert or am pretending to be. I’d just like to “help a brother out” as I’d like to be helped.
I don’t know if he’s got money to blow but most of us don’t so let’s try to work with what he has and not recommend expensive improvements.
Here we go…what we have so far…
“I pull it out of its holster and put next to my right thigh. It's "secured" under my seat. I drive a 2-seater so it can't be pulled from behind the seat, and the cavity goes back far enough that I have had to stick my whole arm under my seat to reach the gun. I do have a hidden glove box I should probably put it in, which is locked using my car key.” – Cloudstrife
This is all we have, so far…We’re gonna need some more info from Cloudstrife. More on that later…
POSITIVES:
#1 He has a gun. Great! Wise choice. I assume that it is loaded.
#2 The gun is in a holster. Great, again! Lots of good reasons for storing the gun in a holster.
#3 When he is in the vehicle, the gun is next to his right thigh. I assume that he is right handed so this puts the gun within easy reach for a fast draw. Very important!
#4 The gun is kept under his seat when he is out of the car. Okay. At least it is not in sight.
#5 While under the seat, the gun is far back and difficult to reach. Okay. This will make it more difficult for a thief or kid to find.
#6 The vehicle has a lockable hidden glove box. Nice. I would guess that one reason he doesn’t use it for the gun is that it is more of a pain than the under the seat storage method.
Before we jump in with the NEGATIVES, let’s get some more info from him.
THINGS WE MIGHT NEED TO KNOW:
#1 What kind of gun and ammo? We’d like to work with what you have already but need to be sure that what you have is adequate for human consumption.
#2 Details about the holster? You may end up not using a holster but let’s find out about that as well.
#3 Next to right thigh? How exactly? Would the gun be in the same exact spot after a crash? Would you be? Seatbelt usage? Airbag?
#4 Gun under seat while stored? Is it just laying there in the holster? Secured to vehicle in any way? In the same exact spot and oriented the same way every time? How fast can you get to it and get it in play? Are you reaching for it with your left hand or right? Ever practiced getting it while being attacked?
#6 What kind of car is it exactly? Where is this hidden glove box? How “hidden” is it? Would your common thief know where it is? If you put it in there, would you lock it every time? The lock is a typical piece of crap, right? Do you have a car alarm? If you do, how diligent are you using it?
I know the thread sounds elementary so far. I hope it doesn’t insult the intelligence of any BSer. No matter how “advanced” some of us may be, I’d like to keep it simple so gun owners and potential gun owners can understand the advice given. Like I said earlier, it may save a life…or two.
It takes some guts to allow a bunch of people to critique something you are doing. Let’s show some respect by putting our flame-throwers aside while adding to this thread. Thank you.
Cloudstrife, info please.
CloudStrife doesn’t have a CCW permit so we’ll assume that he is not carrying a gun. BUT, he has a gun that he keeps in his vehicle…
While trying to focus on just the vehicle gun aspect of his situation, let’s collectively troubleshoot his situation in order to help him make the most of it.
At the same time we’ll be helping others make wise choices that could very well save a life.
Quick note: I am by no means an expert or am pretending to be. I’d just like to “help a brother out” as I’d like to be helped.
I don’t know if he’s got money to blow but most of us don’t so let’s try to work with what he has and not recommend expensive improvements.
Here we go…what we have so far…
“I pull it out of its holster and put next to my right thigh. It's "secured" under my seat. I drive a 2-seater so it can't be pulled from behind the seat, and the cavity goes back far enough that I have had to stick my whole arm under my seat to reach the gun. I do have a hidden glove box I should probably put it in, which is locked using my car key.” – Cloudstrife
This is all we have, so far…We’re gonna need some more info from Cloudstrife. More on that later…
POSITIVES:
#1 He has a gun. Great! Wise choice. I assume that it is loaded.
#2 The gun is in a holster. Great, again! Lots of good reasons for storing the gun in a holster.
#3 When he is in the vehicle, the gun is next to his right thigh. I assume that he is right handed so this puts the gun within easy reach for a fast draw. Very important!
#4 The gun is kept under his seat when he is out of the car. Okay. At least it is not in sight.
#5 While under the seat, the gun is far back and difficult to reach. Okay. This will make it more difficult for a thief or kid to find.
#6 The vehicle has a lockable hidden glove box. Nice. I would guess that one reason he doesn’t use it for the gun is that it is more of a pain than the under the seat storage method.
Before we jump in with the NEGATIVES, let’s get some more info from him.
THINGS WE MIGHT NEED TO KNOW:
#1 What kind of gun and ammo? We’d like to work with what you have already but need to be sure that what you have is adequate for human consumption.
#2 Details about the holster? You may end up not using a holster but let’s find out about that as well.
#3 Next to right thigh? How exactly? Would the gun be in the same exact spot after a crash? Would you be? Seatbelt usage? Airbag?
#4 Gun under seat while stored? Is it just laying there in the holster? Secured to vehicle in any way? In the same exact spot and oriented the same way every time? How fast can you get to it and get it in play? Are you reaching for it with your left hand or right? Ever practiced getting it while being attacked?
#6 What kind of car is it exactly? Where is this hidden glove box? How “hidden” is it? Would your common thief know where it is? If you put it in there, would you lock it every time? The lock is a typical piece of crap, right? Do you have a car alarm? If you do, how diligent are you using it?
I know the thread sounds elementary so far. I hope it doesn’t insult the intelligence of any BSer. No matter how “advanced” some of us may be, I’d like to keep it simple so gun owners and potential gun owners can understand the advice given. Like I said earlier, it may save a life…or two.
It takes some guts to allow a bunch of people to critique something you are doing. Let’s show some respect by putting our flame-throwers aside while adding to this thread. Thank you.
Cloudstrife, info please.