Hollis v. Lynch

[Daddy-O]

The machine-gun related case Hollis v. Lynch is going to be argued before the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals in NOLA this Wednesday (April 6th). Related documents here. Just passing the word. Cheers.

 

[US Infidel]

He knew what he was doing when he submitted the form 1. Are machine guns where we want to bring a fight? Aren't their easier NFA items to try and get removed from NFA registration?

 

[PECEMKR]

There is a certain justice being sought as well.

It is my understanding that there have been several post samples that where allowed to be transferred, usually in the form of political favors.

Also the whole post sample thing was not a law that was ever passed, it was just a new Interpretation.

I have only been casually been following this, again it is my understanding (not my own unabridged work) that a few examples where in fact discovered and will be presented into evidence.

I did try to scan through the legal documents and could not even locate the section on this.

 

[eMGunslinger]

There is a certain justice being sought as well. There have been several post samples that where allowed to be transferred, usually in the form of political favors.
Also the whole post sample thing was not a law that was ever passed, it was just a new interpertation.

Name one

 

[bigtattoo79]

What would be the best thing that could come from this case?

 

[Emperor]

What would be the best thing that could come from this case?

Exposing this kind of typical hypocrisy! If true, I should add!

It is my understanding that there have been several post samples that where allowed to be transferred, usually in the form of political favors.

 

[bigtattoo79]

Exposing this kind of typical hypocrisy! If true, I should add!

So nothing would change for us?


This is just to say if I can't have it I don't think you should have it?

 

[Emperor]

So nothing would change for us?


This is just to say if I can't have it I don't think you should have it?

Don't know!

Being above the law in the form of political favoritism is the lowest form of maggotry! It has ruined so many lives and so many tenets of democracy, it has to stop. So, if that is the one good thing that comes out of this, I am good with it.

It is hard to find a man, when he is the recipient or beneficiary of political favoritism, willing to shout the practice down. And of course it feels great; but it is corrupt nevertheless! And in the long haul, it only benefits a very minute percentage of people in the collective. The negative repercussions are far more collateral.

 

[JoeLiberty]

It's not about hypocrisy. Or political favors. The guy is aiming at taking down the ban on new machine guns for citizens. The Hughes Amendment to the GCA of '68 prevents the sale or transfer of machine guns that were made after 1986. This effectively prohibits the manufacture of new machine guns by citizens. As I understand it, the NFA does not prohibit manufacture or transfer/sale of machine guns, but instead regulates them much like SBRs and suppressors are today. If he wins his case, the Hughes Amendment gets struck down, but the NFA is unaffected. So, best case scenario is that it will no longer be illegal for a citizen to possess, transfer or even manufacture a machine gun, provided that they pay the $200 transfer tax, and register it.

As the kids say "I'm down with this".

 

[Whitebread]

He knew what he was doing when he submitted the form 1. Are machine guns where we want to bring a fight? Aren't their easier NFA items to try and get removed from NFA registration?

If you are willing to pant your flag on the second ammendment or any portion of it then yes. And until the law of the land ruturns to be "shall not be infrenged" any government regulated weaponry should be fought to be unencumbered.

If you are a free citizen of the United States you should be able to purchase (or build) anything you can afford to pay for.

 

[Daddy-O]

A recording of the oral arguments may be heard here. Just passing it along.

 

[Sulzer]

Interesting listen

 

[Daddy-O]

Sadly, but unsurprisingly, it was a no-go. The ruling can be read here.