impending new gun regulation

The Best online firearms community in Louisiana.

Member Benefits:

  • Fewer Ads!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • nastynewt

    Well-Known Member
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Apr 19, 2007
    305
    16
    Franklinton/Houma LA
    Dear J&G Customer,
    This is a special notice to warn you of impending new gun regulation. The ATF has proposed to require gun dealers to provide directly to the ATF the names, addresses, and serial numbers for every purchase of two or more semi auto, mag fed rifles within a five day period!! They are trying to force this in by January 5th, without any approval from Congress, calling it a needed "emergency" regulation. This is backdoor registration of guns and gunowners.

    Here is a quote from the notice by the NSSF (National Shooting Sports Foundation) regarding this burdensome and illegal move:

    "The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is moving to require federally licensed firearms retailers to report multiple sales of modern sporting rifles beginning January 5, 2011. Specifically, the ATF requirement calls for firearms retailers to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of two or more .22 caliber or larger semi-automatic rifles that are capable of accepting a detachable magazine and are purchased by the same individual within five consecutive business days."

    We are encouraging everyone to contact the relevant officials to protest this move. The office that approves regulation changes like this that bypass Congress is the Office of Information and Regulation affairs of the DOJ and they can be reached at 202-395-6466. You can call your Senator and Representative at the US Capitol switchboard at 202-224-3121.

    The NSSF offers the following points to make when calling

    1. "Multiple sales reporting of long guns will actually make it more difficult for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement."
    2. "Long guns are rarely used in crime (Bureau of Justice Statistics)."
    3. "Imposing multiple sales-reporting requirements for long guns would further add to the already extensive paperwork and record-keeping requirements burdening America’s retailers – where a single mistake could cost them their license and even land them in jail."
    4. "Last year, ATF inspected 2,000 retailers in border states and only two licenses were revoked (0.1%). These revocations were for reasons unknown and could have had nothing to do with illicit trafficking of guns; furthermore, no dealers were charged with any criminal wrongdoing."
    5. "According to ATF, the average age of a firearm recovered in the United States is 11 years old. In Mexico it’s more than 14 years old. This demonstrates that criminals are not using new guns bought from retailers in the states."
    6. "Congress, when it enacted multiple sales reporting for handguns, could have required multiple sales of long guns – it specifically chose not to."

    Read the full notice by the NSSF here:
    http://www.nssfblog.com/atf-to-require-multiple-sales-reports-for-long-guns/

    Read the full ATF document proposing this illegal move here: (PDF)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/documents/atf.pdf
    If this has been posted already please delete it
     

    Rahllin

    Geaux Tigers!
    Gold Member
    Rating - 100%
    78   0   0
    Feb 8, 2008
    1,275
    36
    Baton Rouge, LA
    This is already required for multiple handgun purchases. An extra form must be filled out by the FFL and faxed or mailed to state police and ATF.
     

    Hitman

    ® ™
    Rating - 100%
    13   0   0
    Sep 4, 2008
    16,034
    36
    Lake Charles
    And really doesn't provide help to them for knowing who has what b/c of our ability/right to sell guns privately without any paper trails.
     
    Last edited:

    Rahllin

    Geaux Tigers!
    Gold Member
    Rating - 100%
    78   0   0
    Feb 8, 2008
    1,275
    36
    Baton Rouge, LA
    And really doesn't provide help to them for knowing who has what b/c of our ability/right to sell guns privately without any paper trails.

    Exactly. Even without a registration, a gun bought legally can be traced back to the original purchaser, but if he sells the firearm, he is not required to have documentation on the sale, so LEGALLY the search for that gun can end with the original purchaser saying "I sold it." If they ask "to who?" they would probably be frustrated, but unable to do anything when you say you can't remember.
     

    James Cannon

    Well-Known Member
    Rating - 100%
    2   0   0
    May 31, 2010
    1,787
    36
    Laffy
    Hum... They already know this info... You have to give that info every time you run a 4473

    Is this even a REAL issue, or just more chain email FUD?
     
    Top Bottom