Innis, LA shooting puts family at odds with police

[oleheat]

Family, police at odds if accused gunman is hero or vigilante

I didn't see that anyone had posted this- but because of what is known to the public so far, it's worth discussing IMHO. Not sure how many more details will come out- but I guess we will see.....Thoughts?



http://www.wafb.com/story/31232014/the-investigators-family-police-at-odds-if-accused-gunman-is-hero-or-vigilante

 

[MTregre]

LEO tried to make arrest, arrest went south. LEO didn't contain the threat. Shooter stops threat.

We need to know what form of threatening behavior Perk took against shooter. There was obviously some sort of threat considering the Perks recent history. Either way, bad guy dead is awesome.

IMHO, shooter most likely stopped himself from becoming a hostage.

 

[oleheat]

Yeah, I mean the guy kidnapped the ex's mother at gunpoint and heads to this guy's house. No question he and his loved ones were under a direct threat, from that alone. He (the deceased) got out of the car with the weapon in his hand- did he ever drop it?? The article never really says if he still had the weapon on him....That would be kind of important, no?

This will be one to watch.

 

[Emperor]

He will not be prosecuted! The jury of HIS peers will see to it!

There is precedent all over this country where scumbag abusers like the dead guy, slip through the "justice" system and end up killing the victim(s).

He's obviously a good shot, though!

 

[Whitebread]

"This guy was a horrible, horrible person, but when police officers are doing their job, you got to step back and let them do their job. You just can't have a vigilante type attitude," said Pointe Coupee District Attorney's lead prosecutor Tony Clayton.

Sounds to me like they were not doing their job if he was so easily violating the restraining order.

Now the question is when the perp turned to make his stand was he armed. If so, its a good shoot. If it were two deputies instead of one and a civilian, and the perp was armed when he turned to make a stand the shooter would be hoisted up on peoples shoulders and billed as a hero. Seems to me we probably have a department feeling a little sheepish because they needed a civi to do their job for them.

 

[oleheat]

I agree with Emperor- I think he'll beat this.

I'm sure the woman he put through hell yesterday- although still shaken- will eventually have peace knowing he won't hurt her or her daughter ever again.....

 

[Drummy]

He (the deceased) got out of the car with the weapon in his hand- did he ever drop it?? The article never really says if he still had the weapon on him....That would be kind of important, no?

This will be one to watch.

The video claims he dropped the weapon before running and was also unarmed when shot. The shooter may be in a bad place on this one.

 

[Emperor]

The video claims he dropped the weapon before running and was also unarmed when shot. The shooter may be in a bad place on this one.

Defense will claim the shooter did not know he dropped the weapon amidst the chaos, and feared for his life. When the scumbag turned; shooter assumed the weapon was still in his possession.

Here you have the stars aligning for a no bill from the Grand Jury. You have the ex-wife's historical record of abuse; she's a mental disaster. The mom knows the daughter was beaten and abused and she has a gun pulled to her head and kidnapped; she's a mental mess. The shooter, having to put up with not just his girlfriend telling him all this crap all the time, but now the scumbag is there to exact revenge on him, the girlfriend, and possibly kill the mother; and he is a mess!

 

[Whitebread]

The video claims he dropped the weapon before running and was also unarmed when shot. The shooter may be in a bad place on this one.

Now if thats the case it may be harder to prove that he feared for his life, especially with two against one. Time will tell.

 

[Whitebread]

Defense will claim the shooter did not know he dropped the weapon amidst the chaos, and feared for his life. When the scumbag turned; shooter assumed the weapon was still in his possession.

Here you have the stars aligning for a no bill from the Grand Jury. You have the ex-wife's historical record of abuse; she's a mental disaster. The mom knows the daughter was beaten and abused and she has a gun pulled to her head and kidnapped; she's a mental mess. The shooter, having to put up with not just his girlfriend telling him all this crap all the time, but now the scumbag is there to exact revenge on him, the girlfriend, and possibly kill the mother; and he is a mess!

I think you are probably right. The chronic behavior of the perp will likely win the reasonable people over. It will be interesting to see the deputy's account or posibly a body cam.

 

[oleheat]

I know how I'd vote.

Yet another example illustrating the "value" of restraining orders. They are just as worthless as gun control, when it comes to protection.

 

[Whitebread]

I know how I'd vote.

Yet another example illustrating the "value" of restraining orders. They are just as worthless as gun control, when it comes to protection.

Its statements like this that get me agrivated... That we dont have a "like" button here.
Agree 100%

 

[Emperor]

I know how I'd vote.

Yet another example illustrating the "value" of restraining orders. They are just as worthless as gun control, when it comes to protection.

Its statements like this that get me agrivated... That we dont have a "like" button here.
Agree 100%

Put yourself (as a father), in a situation where your daughter was being beaten by a dirtbag she was married to. Knowing what history has shown about restraining orders, you would probably have to act or hold a funeral for your daughter!

 

[Gator 45/70]

Sounds like someone needed killing.

 

[Whitebread]

Put yourself (as a father), in a situation where your daughter was being beaten by a dirtbag she was married to. Knowing what history has shown about restraining orders, you would probably have to act or hold a funeral for your daughter!

Nope cause they would never find that sob's body. I'm a good dude and a peace lovin guy but there are just some things I wont allow. And I'm sure I would rot in jail and I'm sure my daughter would likely hate me but she would be alive and thats what matters to me.

 

[oleheat]

Put yourself (as a father), in a situation where your daughter was being beaten by a dirtbag she was married to. Knowing what history has shown about restraining orders, you would probably have to act or hold a funeral for your daughter!

Yes indeed. It sounds like it was as bad as can be, Emp. This nut was pretty damned brazen & bold to take things to the level he did. Regular beatings and brutality- AND THEN KIDNAPPING THE MOTHER AT GUNPOINT ON SOME TYPE OF HUNTDOWN FOR THE DAUGHTER??? I don't f$%king think so.

How anyone can say these folks weren't in immediate danger is just beyond me.

 

[Emperor]

Yes indeed. It sounds like it was as bad as can be, Emp. This nut was pretty damned brazen & bold to take things to the level he did. Regular beatings and brutality- AND THEN KIDNAPPING THE MOTHER AT GUNPOINT ON SOME TYPE OF HUNTDOWN FOR THE DAUGHTER??? I don't f$%king think so.

How anyone can say these folks weren't in immediate danger is just beyond me.

The cops will maintain that as long as there was an officer on scene, the situation was/should have been; under control.

As for the scumbag and his ilk; I am of the opinion that they, like most pedophiles, are incurable. I don't think I've ever heard of a chronic habitual domestic abuser that has ever reformed totally. They may grow old and may no longer have the strength, and may not be in relationships any more, but that propensity to beat defenseless women and children is always there somewhere.

 

[Blue Diamond]

Those police have such control. I live in Jefferson Parish and when he got out of his car with a weapon, he would have died right there. Period.

 

[general mills]

Its statements like this that get me agrivated... That we dont have a "like" button here.
Agree 100%

There is already more than one website available with a like button for you to finger all day long. Please don't ruin one of the few that don't. If you like a statement, you are free to express that with dialogue.

 

[Hermit]

There is already more than one website available with a like button for you to finger all day long. Please don't ruin one of the few that don't. If you like a statement, you are free to express that with dialogue.

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