Need advice on adding White lights to AR-15s.

[rcm192]

I like my streamlight tlr hp. They weren't kidding when when they said this "HP stands for high-powered. The TLR-1 HP series produce a long-range targeting beam that reaches 400+ meters!"

http://www.streamlight.com/product/product.aspx?pid=251#tabs

 

[rcm192]

Just curious... how much does that weigh?

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It's not light, but it's not horrible. LOL. I actually haven't weighed it because i dont have a scale. IF i had to guess I would say not more than 10lbs in this configuration. Im about to remove the magnifier, it was just to try it out. I built a heavy platform, now I want to build a very simple lightweight rifle next. I figure it doesn't hurt to have one of each flavor.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

That light is huge! What's a targeting beam? What's the advantage? It seems to me in a gunfight it would be snag prone, break when being shot from cover, and be awkward. Why is your EO on your hand-guard instead of the receiver? Ever have any zero issues or POA/POI shifts?

 

[SpeedRacer]

It's not light, but it's not horrible. LOL. I actually haven't weighed it because i dont have a scale. IF i had to guess I would say not more than 10lbs in this configuration. Im about to remove the magnifier, it was just to try it out. I built a heavy platform, now I want to build a very simple lightweight rifle next. I figure it doesn't hurt to have one of each flavor.

It looks like it has a standard 16" barrel and an Eotech, so it's obviously not a "long range" build. So what's the benefit of building a "heavy platform"?

And the TLR HP brings up another topic...if you are setting your rifle up primarily for home defense, there is definitely such a thing as TOO many lumens. I thought the 200+ lumen light I had on my AR was awesome until I turned it on in a dark, confined room. Not fun. I like to keep them around 100 lumens for inside use now.

 

[rcm192]

That light is huge! What's a targeting beam? What's the advantage? It seems to me in a gunfight it would be snag prone, break when being shot from cover, and be awkward. Why is your EO on your hand-guard instead of the receiver? Ever have any zero issues or POA/POI shifts?

the pattern is nice on the light, the EO is on the hand guard to accommodate the magnifier. I havent suffered any zero issues with my Eo or my irons. MI makes a pretty solid rail design. All the light is a TLR series, dual CR123 housing with a bell shaped housing. Pretty good marketing for Streamlight if you ask me. I also have a TLR3 thats currently on my CZ shadow.

The rail only weighs a little over a 1 lb.
http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/images/products/ss_series.gif
Heres a previous configuration on my Stag:

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

the pattern is nice on the light, the EO is on the hand guard to accommodate the magnifier. I havent suffered any zero issues with my Eo or my irons. MI makes a pretty solid rail design. All the light is a TLR series, dual CR123 housing with a bell shaped housing. Pretty good marketing for Streamlight if you ask me. I also have a TLR3 thats currently on my CZ shadow.

The rail only weighs a little over a 1 lb.
http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/images/products/ss_series.gif
Heres a previous configuration on my Stag:

What do you mean the pattern on the light is good? I don't care how solid the design of the rail is it will flex and shift so thats soemthing you may wanna check on. Good marketing how so because it looks cool?

 

[rcm192]

I like the pattern of the beam of light that is produced by the light. And as I previously stated, I have yet to suffer any zero issues. I do however plan on moving the eotech back to the receiver. And as far as marketing is concerned, I would say for the consumers looking for the features offered by the TLR HP it is being sold at a fair price point.

Speed: When I said heavy, I was addressing the physical weight of the rifle, not the ability to perform longer range shots.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

I see.

 

[rcm192]

I'm just trying out different products and configurations on the market to see what works best for me. It's pretty overwhelming with how many options that are available for this platform.

 

[Vanilla Gorilla]

Not for nothing and feel free to ignore it, but, if you took sometime and money and got some training and time behind the rifle you would be able to make much better decisions about the stuff you wanna put on the rifle. Until then you are making assessments based on the opinions you read on the net and what looks ****.

 

[SpeedRacer]

Speed: When I said heavy, I was addressing the physical weight of the rifle, not the ability to perform longer range shots.

My point was, typically weight is a side effect of building something for long range shooting (heavier, longer barrel and not designed to be shoulder fired). I guess I don't understand why you'd want to build a 10+ pound general use rifle.

 

[Guate_shooter]

All of my AR's have the BC Mossie Midnight Mount on them, I am running TLR1 + remote switch on top of MOE handguard.

No issues with sights or optics and love the light being at 12oclock since its in relation to where the optic is looking at and not to a side like most mounts aim the beam at.



http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Batt...t-Mount-MT2400FSB-PIC-p/bce-mt2400fsb-pic.htm

 

[Jack]

I was mainly referring to the TLR mounted on the handguard. You know how easy that switch is to engage (which is why I prefer them over the X300 for pistols).

Again, the old stuff works, I've never doubted you on that. I'm just saying if you're starting from scratch there are better ways. A '72 Dodge Dart will still get you to the grocery store, but that doesn't mean I'd recommend it to someone car shopping in 2012.

Next time you make that analogy, don't use a classic mopar

 

[SeventhSon]

Just got the Magpul cantilever rail in yesterday. Put a Streamlight 2Xcr123 light in a VTAC mount. Looks like it will work well for me.

 

[rcm192]

Just got the Magpul cantilever rail in yesterday. Put a Streamlight 2Xcr123 light in a VTAC mount. Looks like it will work well for me.

View attachment 30356

Is that a factory Magpul furniture color?

 

[SpeedRacer]

Is that a factory Magpul furniture color?

He painted it. You can buy FDE furniture and dye it any color you want, it would be hard to get something that light though.

 

[rcm192]

He painted it. You can buy FDE furniture and dye it any color you want, it would be hard to get something that light though.

Ive seen the dyed furniture and the patterns, nice concept! Nice rifle, seventhson!

 

[SimpleGreen]

This is what my rifle sports right now. An Elzetta 1500 with a Surefire G2X LED I got in a trade. Seems to work well. Used it while looking for a racoon last night. Didn't plan on shooting him with the AR in the middle of town in the middle of the night but It gave me an excuse to try it out. I'd like to try a side mount where I could activate it with my thumb as well, just to see the difference. Of course I wouldn't mind taking a class where I can bash it around all day and see how all of this gear works when it's not looking pretty in the corner.

But what do I know. I'm just a civilian with a tacticool gun

 

[SeventhSon]

Ive seen the dyed furniture and the patterns, nice concept! Nice rifle, seventhson!

Thanks! Yeah, the buttstock was the typical A2 gray and the handguard was FDE. I put about 7 light coats of primer gray thinking I was going to paint it another color but kind of like the light gray so will just leave it for now.

I'm thinking of switching out the Streamlight with my Fenix LD20 though.

 

[rcm192]

Thanks! Yeah, the buttstock was the typical A2 gray and the handguard was FDE. I put about 7 light coats of primer gray thinking I was going to paint it another color but kind of like the light gray so will just leave it for now.

I'm thinking of switching out the Streamlight with my Fenix LD20 though.

+1 on a fenix! I have a TK15 that I love. it's been a good light for about 2 years now!