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    Interesting development.

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    New Orleans cops say they got orders authorizing them to shoot looters in the chaos after Hurricane Katrina

    In the chaotic days after Hurricane Katrina, an order circulated among New Orleans police authorizing officers to shoot looters, according to present and former members of the New Orleans Police Department.

    It's not clear how broadly the order was communicated. Some officers who heard it say they refused to carry it out. Others say they understood it as a fundamental change in the standards on deadly force, which allow police to fire only to protect themselves or others from what appears to be an imminent physical threat.

    The accounts of orders to "shoot looters," "take back the city" or "do what you have to do" are fragmentary. It remains unclear who originated them or whether they were heard by any of the officers involved in shooting 11 civilians in the days after Katrina. Thus far, no officers implicated in shootings have used the order as an explanation for their actions. Only one of the people shot by police -- Henry Glover -- was allegedly stealing goods at the time he was shot.

    Still, current and former officers said the police orders -- taken together with tough talk from top public officials broadcast over the airwaves -- contributed to an atmosphere of confusion about how much force could be used to combat looting.

    In one instance captured on a grainy videotape shot by a member of the force, a police captain relayed the instructions at morning roll call to cops preparing for the day's patrols.

    "We have authority by martial law to shoot looters," Capt. James Scott told a few dozen officers in a portion of the tape viewed by reporters. Scott, then the commander of the 1st District, is now captain of the special operations division.

    Another police captain, Harry Mendoza, told federal prosecutors last month that he was ordered by Warren Riley, then the department's second-in-command, to "take the city back and shoot looters.'' A lieutenant who worked for Mendoza, Mike Cahn III, said he remembered the scene similarly and would testify about it under oath if asked.

    Mendoza and Cahn said in separate interviews that Riley made the remarks at a meeting at Harrah's New Orleans Casino, where police had established a command post. Mendoza quoted Riley as saying: "If you can sleep with it, do it,'' according to a document prepared by prosecutors and provided to lawyers defending police officers recently charged with federal offenses.

    Riley denies the allegations

    Riley denied telling officers they could shoot looters. "I didn't say anything like that," he said. "I heard rumors that someone else said that. But I certainly didn't say that, no.

    "I may have said we need to take control of the city," Riley said. "That may have happened."

    Riley also questioned the credibility of Mendoza, whom he fired in 2006 for alleged neglect of duties. Mendoza has since been reinstated; Riley has retired.

    Scott declined comment but said through his attorney that a fuller version of the videotape places his remarks in a different context.
    But he would not disclose what else he said that day or characterize more completely what he meant.

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    http://www.wdsu.com/news/24748011/detail.html
    http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/08/new_orleans_cops_say_they_got.html

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    Attorneys to use 'shoot the looters' defense in Danziger case

    NEW ORLEANS -- A defense attorney in the Danziger police shooting case tells Eyewitness News several former high ranking NOPD officers claim then-second-in-command Warren Riley told them to shoot looters in the days after Hurricane Katrina.

    "We are targeting looters," Riley told reporters on September 5, 2005. "We are targeting people who want to create mayhem in this city."

    The then deputy police superintendent spoke one week after Katrina roared through New Orleans, flooding the streets and creating an atmosphere of chaos throughout the city.

    "We continue to lock down this city to ensure that looters and any violent criminals have a very serious force to address," said Riley.

    Defense attorney Frank DeSalvo said some officers claim that behind the scenes, Riley took it a step further and ordered them to "shoot looters" and "take back the city."

    "A lot of people have told us that he said that, that were at that meeting, who I have no reason to disbelieve," said DeSalvo.

    DeSalvo represents former NOPD Sgt. Kenneth Bowen. Bowen and three other former officers are accused of shooting unarmed civilians on the Danziger Bridge in the days after Katrina.

    DeSalvo just returned from Washington where he tried to convince a justice department committee not to seek the death penalty. He said Riley's "shoot the looters" comments will be a factor in the defense strategy to clear the officers.

    "Put in the backdrop of all the chaos and all the information of all the armed gunman taking over the city, and police officers being shot, and in that particular case, a radio call that two police officers were shot and down," said DeSalvo.
    http://www.wwltv.com/news/Shoot-The-Looters-Defense-In-Danziger-Case-101514024.html

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    BUSTER48

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    I don’t know if I’m buying any of this. Let’s face it, Mendoza has an axe to grind with Riley (no, not a fan of Riley as a man or a Chief by any means) Mendoza’s credibility will be challenged because of that. For the sake of argument, if Riley did give the go ahead to shoot looters, what exactly were those folks looting on the Danziger bridge?
     

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    I did a photoshop of that pic that I posted on nola.com under the user submitted photos

    It lasted a few hours before it was taken down



    I also did one with Riley's face on the beer man, but I can only find the small pic, have the large file on another drive

     

    Gerberman

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    I did a photoshop of that pic that I posted on nola.com under the user submitted photos

    It lasted a few hours before it was taken down



    I also did one with Riley's face on the beer man, but I can only find the small pic, have the large file on another drive


    That's not beer man, THAT'S LOOTIE
     

    kirkdbergeron

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    IMHO, if your looting expect to get shot, cause trust me if somebody was in my home in the middle of the night, helping themselves to my stuff, its a pretty safe bet they are getting shot. Because what is next? My wife? My family? if they have the NERVE to break into my house and help themselves to anything they want whats next?
     
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    VeedUp

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    cops don't shoot people just to shoot them, something happend for those guys to start firing on the bridge, someone up on that bridge had a gun and started shooting first.
     
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