Nutjob noobies

[CUJOHUNTER]

Recently,I've noticed a few noobs sign on to this site and proceed to do the dastardly deeds that have been occuring on other sites similar to this one. I'm talking about the senseless price gouging on certain firearms and ammunition. I like to think that this site holds a certain amount of knowledge and understanding and that it's members watch out for everyone in a brotherly fashion. I tend to think that we have much better sense and not take advantage of a tragic situation and fleece a system that,although not perfect at times,has allowed us to exclusively buy,sell or trade firearms and ammunition in an honorable and respectable manner. These new breed of members that have recently joined for the sheer purpose of cashing in on a hype has really gotten under my skin. I'm all about free enterprise and the freedom to do business as you please,but this blatant,over-inflated pricing of certain items has gotten out of hand and IMO,don't belong on this site. Making a FEW dollars on items that are currently out of reach in response to supply and demand is one thing but a 300% - 400% increase from original price is pure criminal and down right disrespectful to the gun community.

That's all we need...for the libs to see a discourse in an organization based on guns and the ideology of an armed and polite society. We don't need these headhunters on this site. Frankly,all this overly ridiculous price gouging offends me. Seriously,I'm not paying $1800 for a Bushmaster Carbon 15. I don't care how scarse they are right now,they're not worth that at all...no matter what the situation is. I don't know how everyone else feels about this but I feel like they're insulting our inteligence buy passing on their business to us.

So,this raises a question. Is there a line when it comes to profiting from a supply and demand emrgency? Or...should there be no gouging whatsoever at any amount? Should this site allow profiteers to do as they please or should we go as far as to banning these "salesmen"?

Just a thought......what do you all think?

















































Recently,I've seen a few noobs sign on to this site and doing their dastardly deeds that have been occuring in other sites similar

 

[CEHollier]

There have been members gouging prices in the name of Free Enterprise. Me. I'm just sitting on the sideline until things cool off.

 

[VeedUp]

There was actually a new member that gave me a fair deal on a BCG, he saw in another thread how red x arms(which must be ran by two idiots in a garage or basement) is giving me the run around on a lost item they shipped to me. They still haven't talked to UPS. My CC company is working on getting the charges reversed. So I wouldn't say they all bad. But even some of the guys who have been here have showed some true colors in all this.

 

[tupperware9mm]

I watched a guy buy a basket of Pro mag 40 round mag's for $27.00 a piece at Academy on Ambassador Caffery Parkway at 8:15 yesterday morning and by yesterday evening he was selling them here for $75.00 a piece. If you want to do that in the outside world that's up to you,... but in this forum there should be a certain amount of respect for your blood brothers. Some of us have been here longer than November of 2012. There is free enterprise and then there is being a douche bag. I bet this guy gouges on ice after hurricanes also.

 

[CEHollier]

I watched a guy buy a basket of Pro mag 40 round mag's for $27.00 a piece at Academy on Ambassador Caffery Parkway at 8:15 yesterday morning and by yesterday evening he was selling them here for $75.00 a piece.

It's "entrepreneurial pricks" like this one that buys up everything a store has so people can't get a fair deal. And then turns around and jacks them up because of the scarcity of the item he and people like him created. I hope he chokes on a Doritos.

 

[topgunz1]

If you have extra to sell, cool. If you make a profit, good job. But if you intentionally buy up everything just to screw people over, that's just wrong.

 

[3fifty7]

I agree whole heartedly.

 

[1911Dave]

Sadly too many people on here just say its "capitalism" and "free enterprise" and that people should have bought and stock up beforehand. Its ridiculous hearing that. People are driving up prices on most of ours favorite hobby and its making less of a fun thing to enjoy. Yet we are the bad ones for saying that its hurting our pastime.

People have said, "well how do you know when people are gouging, and others just selling a little higher to keep up with the market"? I am not stupid. You know the difference when you see it.

 

[Armnhammer]

If you have extra to sell, cool. If you make a profit, good job. But if you intentionally buy up everything just to screw people over, that's just wrong.

I agree with this ^

 

[Gator 45/70]

New member's,Old member's ? I see no difference in profitering by these ''people'' who choose too dance on the grave of dead children in order to make a dishonest dollar...
I will never help one of this kind out...

 

[1911Dave]

New member's,Old member's ? I see no difference in profitering by these ''people'' who choose too dance on the grave of dead children in order to make a dishonest dollar...
I will never help one of this kind out...

Exactly. Sadly I have seen a few older memebrs doing the exact same thing, saying its in the name of capitalism. You can thank them for keeping our hobby that much harder to enjoy by partaking in the nonsense.

 

[Scott.Thornton]

New member's,Old member's ? I see no difference in profitering by these ''people'' who choose too dance on the grave of dead children in order to make a dishonest dollar...
I will never help one of this kind out...

This. it isn't just the new members, but several of the more established members are also being douchebags and really love to cry CAPITALISM when anyone says anything to them or about it. It's a fake shortage, plain and simple brought on by our own people. Like I've said before and got shot down by damn near everyone Our own worst enemy in all of this is ourselves, plain and simple.

 

[DAVE_M]

If you have extra to sell, cool. If you make a profit, good job. But if you intentionally buy up everything just to screw people over, that's just wrong.

I agree. If you have a few extra and you are looking to get rid of them. That's fine, but...

I can go find at least 10 threads with "I have 30 Brand New In Box/Packaging Magazines - $100 each".
Specifically, the Glock 33 round mags for $80 made me laugh. I saw some KCI Glock mags for $40 the other day too lol.

 

[lsufan1971]

I am amazed a two things. One what some people a asking for their stuff and two that some people are actually buying it. If someone actually pays $2300 for an $800 AR or $600 for a case of ammo they can get for half that they are the idiots.

It's simply supply and demand. Think of housing after Katrina. Me and the wife had a Condo on the North shore. It was probably worth 65K before the storm. In the weeks after we were offered over 2 times that amount . I would have been out of my mind not to take what I could get. Did the guy that bought it think he got F'd over...no he had a place to live.

 

[Jack]

So what are any of you suggesting to fix the problem? Banning people for gouging? If so, who gets to determine what is gouging? Simply put, you can't. The claims that the sellers are driving up prices is obsurd. The buyers are driving up the prices. As a seller, if you're priced too high, your item won't get bought. That simple.

As it relates to gouging in general, this isn't a necessity. If you don't want to pay a higher price, don't. If you're want something you don't have, tough ****. Scares happen frequently, there was one after the last election, there is one now. It isn't unheard of and as such your lack of preparedness falls in your lap. Don't expect myself and others to sell things below their replacement value to help you out.

The hypocrisy of this thread is amazing. People who complain about welfare queens driving Caddilacs are now asking others to give them deeply discounted **** because they don't want to pay. People who call Obama a socialist complaining about capitalism.

I know you will try to come up with some kind of excuse for this, but those are the facts. You are complaining about a free market. You are hypocrites. You disgust me.

 

[JBE]

Me. I'm just sitting on the sideline until things cool off.

That's what I'm doing.

As far as pricing, they have the right to ask whatever price they want as long as the market demands it and people are willing to pay it. Personally, I have no problem with people asking a little more due to the demand, but flat out-and-out "gouging" is wrong.

However, more and more people are trying to become responsible firearm owners right now and the price gouging is really making it difficult for them to get into or stay in this hobby/sport.This should be a time when we make it easier for them, not harder.

 

[1911Dave]

You disgust me.

The same applies here

 

[JBE]

Specifically, the Glock 33 round mags for $80 made me laugh. I saw some KCI Glock mags for $40 the other day too lol.

If you want to laugh harder, I saw a 33-rounder go for around $120 on GunBroker

 

[Blake74u]

So what are any of you suggesting to fix the problem? Banning people for gouging? If so, who gets to determine what is gouging? Simply put, you can't. The claims that the sellers are driving up prices is obsurd. The buyers are driving up the prices. As a seller, if you're priced too high, your item won't get bought. That simple.

As it relates to gouging in general, this isn't a necessity. If you don't want to pay a higher price, don't. If you're want something you don't have, tough ****. Scares happen frequently, there was one after the last election, there is one now. It isn't unheard of and as such your lack of preparedness falls in your lap. Don't expect myself and others to sell things below their replacement value to help you out.

The hypocrisy of this thread is amazing. People who complain about welfare queens driving Caddilacs are now asking others to give them deeply discounted **** because they don't want to pay. People who call Obama a socialist complaining about capitalism.

I know you will try to come up with some kind of excuse for this, but those are the facts. You are complaining about a free market. You are hypocrites. You disgust me.

Holy smokes! A post from NOLA Jack that I actually agree with! Wow. I need more coffee.

 

[Jack]

The same applies here

Cool deal. If you need some mags or ammo let me know.