SBR?

[JonVHerbert]

Would putting this stock/brace on a HK SP5K make it an SBR? It would NOT have a front grip. My intent is to add a brace and keep it as a PDW. I figured it was Ok since it is essentially the same as a Daniel defense DDM4 PDW; but am not 100% sure. It would be the exact brace pictured below, added to the exact pistol in the image. Can’t find a concrete answer online. Anyone have any advice? Thank you! Also, what are some cool braces that y’all may have on your SP5K or similar?

 

[aroundlsu]

That looks like a stock not a brace to me. It even says stock in the title. Stock = SBR. Why don't you SBR it? I did mine and it's awesome.

 

[Bigchillin83]

Yup, that’s considered a stock… look for sb tactical brace

 

[JonVHerbert]

Well, I’d love to SBR it but I’m not sure on the process and heard it’s very pricey. What was your experience? Thank y’all!

 

[Bigchillin83]

Here’s the one you seek

 

[aroundlsu]

It's $200 to SBR it and fairly simple and fast now a days.

 

[AdvancedLaser]

SBR you say ? Yes ? You rang

Email or call me I can walk you thru the process beginning to end.

And to answer your question yes, if you put that stock on it, it’s an SBR. Actually all of the tactical braces on the market, minus two, are grey area. They are not ATF approved. Unless they are the two original ones, in the determination letter. They are all copies of the approved design(s).

 

[AdvancedLaser]

It's $200 to SBR it and fairly simple and fast now a days.

Generally 30-45 days. Had a guy bring me a suppressor tube the other day that said 13 days on it.

 

[rcm192]

Here’s the one you seek

View attachment 112343

This is only for a MP5 patterned receiver. Unfortunately SB tactical doesnt make one for the mp5k pattern guns that telescopes. They DO make a side folding option. The only "k" model it would work on is a gun that has a "reverse stretch" receiver. Basically a standard mp5 receiver with a short K barrel/front end on it.

The mp5k has 2 rear take down pins. The standard mp5 has 1. In addition to the amount of pins, the mp5k type guns also have a block welded on either side of the receiver. This prohibits you from you from using a standard HK type collapsible stock. The gun was designed to be slung from a single point bungee sling for quick deployment with full auto in effect. Stocks werent part of the original concept of the K models. The side folding Choate brand stocks came out later.

So...if you want collapsible stocks or braces on a mp5k patterned gun you have limited but decent options.

Safety Harbor Systems: brace or stock

KES | MP5k pattern – Safety Harbor Firearms

HK parts:

HKP MP5K 9mm 5 Position Telscoping Stock - PDWC

5 Position Telscoping Stock - MP5K - PDWC

hkparts.net

B&T:

B&T Telescopic Retractable Stock for MP5K/SP5K/SP89

B&T's telescopic retractable 5-position stock assembly for Heckler & Koch models, MP5K, SP5K and SP89 and clones. The B&T stock provides a comfortable and solid shoulder support while remaining very compact. The stock is self-locking and can be adjusted rapidly, without pressing any levers.

www.armsunlimited.com

 

[Bigchillin83]

This is only for a MP5 patterned receiver. Unfortunately SB tactical doesnt make one for the mp5k pattern guns that telescopes. They DO make a side folding option. The only "k" model it would work on is a gun that has a "reverse stretch" receiver. Basically a standard mp5 receiver with a short K barrel/front end on it.

The mp5k has 2 rear take down pins. The standard mp5 has 1. In addition to the amount of pins, the mp5k type guns also have a block welded on either side of the receiver. This prohibits you from you from using a standard HK type collapsible stock. The gun was designed to be slung from a single point bungee sling for quick deployment with full auto in effect. Stocks werent part of the original concept of the K models. The side folding Choate brand stocks came out later.

So...if you want collapsible stocks or braces on a mp5k patterned gun you have limited but decent options.

Safety Harbor Systems: brace or stock

KES | MP5k pattern – Safety Harbor Firearms

HK parts:

HKP MP5K 9mm 5 Position Telscoping Stock - PDWC

5 Position Telscoping Stock - MP5K - PDWC

hkparts.net

B&T:

B&T Telescopic Retractable Stock for MP5K/SP5K/SP89

B&T's telescopic retractable 5-position stock assembly for Heckler & Koch models, MP5K, SP5K and SP89 and clones. The B&T stock provides a comfortable and solid shoulder support while remaining very compact. The stock is self-locking and can be adjusted rapidly, without pressing any levers.

www.armsunlimited.com

you are correct didnt see the "k series" he had

 

[JonVHerbert]

Here’s the one you seek

View attachment 112343

Ah, nice! Not as ergonomic as the SBR stock, but, it'll do. Is the process to get it registered as an SBR difficult/expensive?

 

[JonVHerbert]

It's $200 to SBR it and fairly simple and fast now a days.

Hmm, then I'm sold. What kind of time frame, ballpark?

 

[JonVHerbert]

This is only for a MP5 patterned receiver. Unfortunately SB tactical doesnt make one for the mp5k pattern guns that telescopes. They DO make a side folding option. The only "k" model it would work on is a gun that has a "reverse stretch" receiver. Basically a standard mp5 receiver with a short K barrel/front end on it.

The mp5k has 2 rear take down pins. The standard mp5 has 1. In addition to the amount of pins, the mp5k type guns also have a block welded on either side of the receiver. This prohibits you from you from using a standard HK type collapsible stock. The gun was designed to be slung from a single point bungee sling for quick deployment with full auto in effect. Stocks werent part of the original concept of the K models. The side folding Choate brand stocks came out later.

So...if you want collapsible stocks or braces on a mp5k patterned gun you have limited but decent options.

Safety Harbor Systems: brace or stock

KES | MP5k pattern – Safety Harbor Firearms

HK parts:

HKP MP5K 9mm 5 Position Telscoping Stock - PDWC

5 Position Telscoping Stock - MP5K - PDWC

hkparts.net

B&T:

B&T Telescopic Retractable Stock for MP5K/SP5K/SP89

B&T's telescopic retractable 5-position stock assembly for Heckler & Koch models, MP5K, SP5K and SP89 and clones. The B&T stock provides a comfortable and solid shoulder support while remaining very compact. The stock is self-locking and can be adjusted rapidly, without pressing any levers.

www.armsunlimited.com

WOW! Thank you for your response, I appreciate your knowledge. This is the exact gun I am wanting, and want to put a brace on it. Although I'm now learning maybe the SBR route isn't so difficult. https://hk-usa.com/hk-models/sp5k-pdw/

 

[MOTOR51]

Hmm, then I'm sold. What kind of time frame, ballpark?

I did mine this year and it was 31 days total. Everything can be done online by yourself except for the fingerprints.


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[Aurellevi]

There is a brace adapter also made for that stock. As solid as a stock but higher cost.
Example:

 

[JonVHerbert]

There is a brace adapter also made for that stock. As solid as a stock but higher cost.
Example:
View attachment 112348

Hmm, Pretty cool. I'm likely going to do the SBR route, after hearing from some of the fellows on here. Helpful group!

 

[AdvancedLaser]

I did mine this year and it was 31 days total. Everything can be done online by yourself except for the fingerprints.


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Who engraved it ?

 

[Bigchillin83]

might look at whats cheaper/easier... buying it an sbr already and tax stamp and doing paperwork or buying a pistol and then buying the stock and then tax stamp

hk stocks are super expensive

 

[AdvancedLaser]

might look at whats cheaper/easier... buying it an sbr already and tax stamp and doing paperwork or buying a pistol and then buying the stock and then tax stamp

hk stocks are super expensive

Careful with buying the stock prior to stamp. If you have no other SBR items it could go on, and it’s in the same house or area with the pistol then a constructive possession angle could fit. Don’t have both in the same safe, just unwise.

The big difference is the transfer time. If you buy an already papered SBR and it’s Form 4’ed to you it’s 8-12 months. If you buy a pistol and Efile the Form 1 it’s around 30 days.

 

[DiverKR]

My last eform 1 took 20 days. I just submitted my next so will see how long this next one takes.