I completly understand. But you typed out a 100 word essay telling him not to use a shock collar yet ended it by telling him how its ok for you to use it.
Sure, there's a catch-22 to the subject matter so to speak, but I don't think I'm being hypocritical. I apologize for the confusion it may have generated......(I'm offshore, had very little sleep and am notorious for run-on sentences )
As a similar analogy, with children, you train them to grow up and become responsible, productive adults over time. If they grossly fall out of line and are a danger to society in general, you are left with no choice but to control them as society dictates. It's the only way to limit the liability to the general public. Unfortunately with people, there are infinite factors (i.e. drugs, peer-pressure, life changing experiences, etc...) that can limit the ability to retain said discipline, whereas with pets we tend to have control of their environment throughout their entire life. Give them a chance to learn via positive reinforcement before resorting to other methods, but reserve these methods if regression becomes a factor during the training.
It's all about having options and knowing the priority in which they should be addressed and carried out depending on the animal in question. And since I know "zero" about anyone else’s pet, I (personally) cannot, in good faith, dictate a general prognosis to just don a shock collar because I have one on mine periodically. And to be clear, those collars rarely even come off the charger unless they are being worked off-leash and off-reservation.
But always remember........................
Good luck!
C1