SO, What am I looking for (Para Wise)

[Nomad.2nd]

I've made a couple Paras... but they were the ones/kits advertising that no mods were needed to the Upper reciever...

I'm gonna turn one of these Argy's into a Para, and I don't see any non Alloy DSA Para Lowers...

SO... Since I need to assemble one:

What do I look for on the lower to insure it's got what 'cuts are needed'
To work with one of my DSA or Coonan recievers?

I need to know before I lop off the rear tang and destroy the sucker...

Priciate it.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

OK... Now that I am Cross-Eyed...
If the rear of the Lower looks like the one on the right:

And I take off the tube and rear tang...

Then I get:
http://www.dsarms.com/PARA-Return-Spring-Set-----P044SET/productinfo/P044SET/

http://www.dsarms.com/PARA-Pivot-Block-Connecting-Screw-----P096/productinfo/P096/

http://www.dsarms.com/SA58-PARA-Extreme-Duty-Scope-Mount---620APARA/productinfo/620APARA/

http://www.dsarms.com/PARA-Carrier-with-Sand-Cuts-----P033/productinfo/P033/

http://www.dsarms.com/FAL-PARA-Trooper-Folding-Stock-----P120USSTK/productinfo/P120USSTK/


I'm good to go right?

The use of the railed topcover means I won't need the Upper reciever slotted on the front (Or trim the standard Para Topcover)

Did I miss anything?

Oh, One final Question...

I know the Front Site is nonstandard (Tall) Are the Threads any different as I plan on replacing it with a Night site.

Priciate it.

 

[kajuntriton]

If you are going to use a scope why change to night sights? Threads are the same on the complete rifle that I have. DSA also makes a NO Nose top cover with out the rail, http://www.dsarms.com/US-Para-Steel-Top-Cover--No-Nose-at-Front-----P035US/productinfo/P035US/ the use of the no nose cover also means no machine work on the upper receiver. They also make a very nice AR style rear sight you may wish to look at as well for your para. http://www.dsarms.com/Tactical-Para-Steel-Rear-Sight-US-Made----DSA110/productinfo/DSA110/ This is the sight I have on my PARA and it kicks ass!

Not sure what you are planning for US made parts, BUT before planning on a HTS change out, you will have to do some machine work on your USA made hammer. the cross bar on the Argy is a bit different......

Looks like you have all the parts together.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

If you are going to use a scope why change to night sights? I want it... Backups. Fighting rifles have night sites.Threads are the same on the complete rifle that I have. DSA also makes a NO Nose top cover with out the rail, http://www.dsarms.com/US-Para-Steel-Top-Cover--No-Nose-at-Front-----P035US/productinfo/P035US/ the use of the no nose cover also means no machine work on the upper receiver. They also make a very nice AR style rear sight you may wish to look at as well for your para. http://www.dsarms.com/Tactical-Para-Steel-Rear-Sight-US-Made----DSA110/productinfo/DSA110/ This is the sight I have on my PARA and it kicks ass!Are the threads on the front sight nonstandard metric?

Not sure what you are planning for US made parts, BUT before planning on a HTS change out, you will have to do some machine work on your USA made hammer. the cross bar on the Argy is a bit different......

Looks like you have all the parts together.

Priciate it, didn't know about the hammer.

 

[dockbox]

Is there an issue with teh front sight height and changing the rear on the Argies?

 

[kajuntriton]

Box. you will probably want to go with the AR type rear sight, they seem to work best on the Para's, Then YOU may have to go with a taller front sight post. Either are pretty easy to come by. And in comparison to the rest of the parts and price of the rifle this is very inexpensive.
IF a Para is your direction, I personally would recommend the DSA para stock set up and their rear sight. I think Nomad has the links to all the required parts just above in a few post ups in this thread. FALCON ARMS also has a pretty good set up, they are only a few bucks cheaper, but I would pay the few extra dollars and get the DSA setup!

Best of luck!

KT

PS: You will also have to get the top cover setup for a para as well. IF You go with a para nose cone cover you will need to have the upper receiver that you purchase milled out as well.

 

[dockbox]

How is the quality of Falcon Arms? I am looking at the PARA value Kit. http://www.falconarms.com/xcart/home.php?cat=48&sort=price&sort_direction=0&page=2

 

[kajuntriton]

Para Value Kit
SKU: Para-0096

Our Para value kit includes Falcon Arms' bolt carrier, new top cover and a Falcon recoil kit with spring support. With this kit you have your choice of receiving a bolt carrier with or without sand cuts and a top cover with or without the nose. Please specify these when ordering. This is an ex...

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Our price: $149.95

That is supposed to be a VERY good kit!
Personally I would go with the SAND CUTS bolt carrier and I would also go with the top cover with NOSE cone......NOW IF you go with the nose cone YOU WILL have to have what ever upper receiver you use cut to accept the nose cone cover, where as without the nose cone you will NOT have to have the receiver cut. The nose cone makes a more stable setup and cleaner look as well. BUT again does require extra machining, which for someone that knows what they are doing takes about 10 minutes! SO it's no biggie and not very expensive! WORTH THE COST!


KT

 

[kajuntriton]

Here is a pic of the receiver with the nose cone cut out around the gas piston.

 

[dockbox]

Do any of the receivers come that way,or do they all have to be milled?

 

[kajuntriton]

Do any of the receivers come that way,or do they all have to be milled?

Upper receivers do NOT come this way, they have to be cut if you are going to use the "NOSE CONE" para dust cover, if you use the non nose cone dust cover you won't need this mod.....read the above post about nose cone vs non nose cone.

KT

 

[dockbox]

Just talked to SARCO... There is an issue with converting these to PARAs because the front sight is tall with open ear gas block. Does any one know of a tall PARA rear sight?The guy from SARCO told me I needed to get a short eared barrel. That's 180.00 Bucks. I hope there is a cheaper way of resolving this.

 

[kajuntriton]

http://www.dsarms.com/Tactical-Para-Steel-Rear-Sight-US-Made----DSA110/productinfo/DSA110/

Are you planning on using the barrel that comes with your kit? Are you going to build a para with a 21" barrel? OR do you plan on cutting it down and rethreading it?

Just me........BUT if I was going to shorten the barrel.... I would find an IMBEL barrel and SAVE the ARGY 21" barrel for a later project! Imbels are plentiful and the ARGY's NOT SO MUCH!

KT

 

[dockbox]

I originally was planning on using the supplied chrome lined barrel and get it cut to 18.5 inches, but now am looking for new options. SARCO has closed ear Chrome Lined Argy barrels, so I may do that if i cannot find a rear sight that will work. Would you want to buy my open ear barrel?

 

[Nomad.2nd]

Just talked to SARCO... There is an issue with converting these to PARAs because the front sight is tall with open ear gas block. Does any one know of a tall PARA rear sight?The guy from SARCO told me I needed to get a short eared barrel. That's 180.00 Bucks. I hope there is a cheaper way of resolving this.

Personally I do not care that the ears are open.

I'm using the standard-but-para cut lower reciever (Modifying it) to use for the Para...

So the front and rear will match.

Why not just replace the front site post?

Or file it down if it's an issue?
(You could reduce the thickness as well as the height if desired)

As to there being more imbels...
I have 11 Argy's... it'll be OK.