Taking possession of "illegal" Class III

[Nolacopusmc]

Been watching that show "Storage Wars". it got me to thinking (step back, don't want anyone getting hurt )

Say I win one of these storage units or some kind of estate sale and there is a Class3 item like a NIB full auto MP5....is there a way for me to register it legally and keep it?

What if grandpa has a war souvenir M16 in the attic?


Lastly, if Bubba down the street decided to make an SBS, will it forever be illegal, or is there a method in place for him to become righteous and for me to buy it from him?

 

[robbynola]

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[RyanW]

Supposedly ALL firearms have to be turned over to the ATF

 

[spanky]

If you don't know then how are we supposed to?

 

[Quickdraw22]

There is a similar thread on the C3 section at ARFcom. Basically, unless it has papers, your only legal options are to send it in or donate it to a museum if possible.

Let me see if I can find the link......

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=17&t=322347

 

[Nolacopusmc]

If you don't know then how are we supposed to?

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[spanky]

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[jmcrawf1]

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[bs875]

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Not knowing the answer to the MP5 question I would probably strip it down for parts, torch the receiver and the re-build as a semi. I doubt there is a way for it to be yours if it was not already a transferable Class III. Apparently the part sets are worth a cool grand.

http://www.summitgunbroker.com/H_K_MP5_parts_kit.html

They don't gots to know about it. It could be our milk.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Gotcha. I was just wondering if there was some kind of grace period or something for "finds" like war relics and such.

 

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[Tim67]

For bubba's sbs, I suppose you could buy the rest of the gun, leave the bbl with him, then tell him you'll be back for it when your stamp comes in.

As for mp5 in the storage locker, I'd think unless it was already registered you'd be out of luck. You could probably cut it up, send the atf pics of it cut up and the story to cya, then rebuild it as a semi.

Strip it down to a bare receiver, surrender the receiver to the
ATF and sell the parts.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Strip it down to a bare receiver, surrender the receiver to the
ATF and sell the parts.

When it comes to full auto, are certain parts like bolts, sears, etc...considered "illegal", or is it always the receiver only?

 

[ryan]

When it comes to full auto, are certain parts like bolts, sears, etc...considered "illegal", or is it always the receiver only?

I know when it comes to ar/m16, it is just the sear as far as I know.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

I know when it comes to ar/m16, it is just the sear as far as I know.

So if gramps had a vietnam era M16 in the atttic, i could change out the sear and be legit?

 

[ryan]

So if gramps had a vietnam era M16 in the atttic, i could change out the sear and be legit?

as far as I understand, yes you should be ok because they have drop in sears. Now an ak on the other hand you would have to cut the receiver or demill it because there would be another hole drilled in it for the FA sear.

 

[artabr]

So if gramps had a vietnam era M16 in the atttic, i could change out the sear and be legit?

http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-appendix-b.pdf

"In order to avoid violations of the NFA, M16, hammers, triggers, disconnectors, selectors and bolt
carriers must not be used in assembly of AR-15 type semiautomatic rifles, unless the M16 parts have
been modified to AR-15 Model SP1 configuration. Any AR-15 type rifles which have been assembled
with M16 internal components should have those parts removed and replaced with AR-15 Model SP1
type parts which are available commercially. The M16 components also may be modified to AR-15
Model SP1 configuration."

________________________

The above was as of the year 2000.


Art

 

[robbynola]

as far as I understand, yes you should be ok because they have drop in sears. Now an ak on the other hand you would have to cut the receiver or demill it because there would be another hole drilled in it for the FA sear.

I believe the m16 receiver has some slight differences from an ar15 that would make it illegal even without the seer. I'd take gramps' m16, replace the lower with a plumcrazy, then drag that beast through the tapco bin at the gun show, mount a sweet peace of ncstar glass on top and call it a day.

 

[Richard in LA]

I know when it comes to ar/m16, it is just the sear as far as I know.

Thats wrong. The lower is the registered part on a real deal M16. If you do not own an ar15, or lower reciever, it is not illegal for you to own a sear. a registered drop in auto sear is different, and registered as a machine gun, as it can be swapped into any lower that has a low shelf.

if you were to buy a storage building, and it happened to have a NIB full auto MP5 inside it, I would call the NFA and inquire if it were in the database. If it were in the database I'd see if I could find a dealer who would transfer it into your name.

 

[Bearco]

I thought you asked this question a few months back. Repost?