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  • Emperor

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    This level if indoctrination is scary! But moreover; what reasoning is behind this?


    Assignment Asking Students Whether The Holocaust Was Real Results In Disturbing Answers And Grades

    Approximately 2,000 eighth graders in the Rialto, CA, school district received a shocking in-class essay assignment in May, which led to an outcry from the community and a public apology from district administrators.

    The assignment asked students to discuss whether the Holocaust “was an actual event in history,” or whether it was “merely a political scheme created to influence public emotion and gain,” the San Bernadino Sun reports.

    After the justified outrage ensued, district administrators insisted that not one single student had argued against the reality of the Holocaust.

    But the San Bernadino Sun, after sifting through hundreds of student essays, have already found at least 50 which show that that was a lie.

    “I believe the event was fake, according to source 2 the event was exhaggerated,” one student wrote. (Students’ and teachers’ original spelling and grammar are retained throughout this story.) “I felt that was strong enogh evidence to persuade me the event was a hoax.”

    In some cases, students earned high marks and praise for arguing the Holocaust never occurred, with teachers praising their well-reasoned arguments:

    “you did well using the evidence to support your claim,” the above student’s teacher wrote on his assignment.

    The students were asked to use sources – printouts from About.com, History.com, and Holocaust denial site BibleBelievers.org.au – to construct an argument for or against the validity of the Holocaust.

    The fact that impressionable students are being led to disbelieve that 6 million Jews across Europe were massacred has caused many in the community to express grief.


    “Students got high praise and grades for writing that the Holocaust was a hoax. I’m sick about that, I’m sick about that,” said Rabbi Suzanne Singer of Temple Beth El in Riverside. “It’s worse than I thought it was.”

    It’s beyond shameful that educators would use their authority to help perpetuate the idea that the Holocaust is a “myth.” They do not belong in the field of education, and they do not belong around children.
     

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    .......Approximately 2,000 eighth graders in the Rialto, CA,.......


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    olivs260

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    I don't think critical thinking was the point. I can list 1000 other exercises to teach critical thinking.

    And here's your #1001. You know what critical thinking is, right?


    ETA- if you honestly think this is some extreme-whatever-wing agenda to convince children that the Holocaust never happened, then just.... nevermind :rolleyes:
     
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    oleheat

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    Hopefully some good came out of this. :)

    Like half of them learning which continent it took place on and then being able to locate it on a map. (If they know what a map is)
     

    madwabbit

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    I've had similar assignments in college. It's "argue against something that you know is true" - critical thinking and debate.
     
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    I don't see the issue. It was a critical thinking assignment, and I think assignments like this are an interesting way to see how people are influenced by what they read on the interweb. 2000 students, all using the same sources, coming up with different answers. And as they should, students were graded on their critical thinking, not their answer.

    Was it dumb to do such an assignment in our overly sensitive times? Obviously. Was it part of some indoctrination scheme to convince kids the holocaust didn't exist? No, that's retarded.
     

    Hitman

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    I've had similar assignments in college. It's "argue against something that you know is true" - critical thinking and debate.

    The assignment is legit,
    the topic....could have been better.

    But the most extreme works. Everyone knows it was real,
    so let's look at sources saying it's not.

    But the topic..... I'd call that the ol, "Good initiative, Bad judgement"
     

    Emperor

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    And here's your #1001. You know what critical thinking is, right?


    ETA- if you honestly think this is some extreme-whatever-wing agenda to convince children that the Holocaust never happened, then just.... nevermind :rolleyes:

    I am staunch proponent of teaching critical thinking, but how about the public schools at least teach them history first?
     

    olivs260

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    The assignment is legit,
    the topic....could have been better.

    But the most extreme works. Everyone knows it was real,
    so let's look at sources saying it's not.

    But the topic..... I'd call that the ol, "Good initiative, Bad judgement"


    From my experience, the topics are always controversial. I once had to argue in a Speech class that freedom of speech isn't a constitutional right. It's critical thinking... it is what it is :dunno:

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    I am staunch proponent of teaching critical thinking, but how about the public schools at least teach them history first?

    Sorry, I guess I missed the part where this was a history class...
     

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    And here's your #1001. You know what critical thinking is, right?


    ETA- if you honestly think this is some extreme-whatever-wing agenda to convince children that the Holocaust never happened, then just.... nevermind :rolleyes:

    Of course I do. And I never mentioned that I felt one way or another. Just that there are other ways to do this than with what could certainly be called a "hot button" for some people.
     

    Hitman

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    From my experience, the topics are always controversial. I once had to argue in a Speech class that freedom of speech isn't a constitutional right. It's critical thinking... it is what it is :dunno:
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    Same here, but not the Holocaust and not at 13 years old. :confused:

    I'm not against early learning, one of my daughters has shown me up at 5 yrs old
    in her ability to learn things I didn't think possible for a 5 year old to grasp.

    In my opinion, I think the CT Assignments on the Holocaust
    is more of a High School-College Aged material.

    Surely not 13 year olds. But I could be wrong about 13 year olds :dunno:
     

    madwabbit

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    critical thinking assignments are always emotionally stirring- it invokes motivation to argue... and as a result- think.

    abortion and crimes against children (like, the holocaust, 9/11, etc) are all common subjects- because they incite emotional responses. Any younger than 13-14 and I'd say the subject was in poor taste, but I studied WW2 and the holocaust in 7th and 8th grade - who didn't?
     

    Emperor

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    I think it is doing more than teaching critical thought;

    After the justified outrage ensued, district administrators insisted that not one single student had argued against the reality of the Holocaust.

    But the San Bernadino Sun, after sifting through hundreds of student essays, have already found at least 50 which show that that was a lie.

    Why lie? If it was in poor taste, why tell the reporter it didn't change anyone's views?
     

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    I think it is doing more than teaching critical thought;

    Why lie? If it was in poor taste, why tell the reporter it didn't change anyone's views?

    Typical damage control to placate an overly sensitive outrage.

    The better question is...if it is a "scary level of indoctrination", what's the goal? What does anyone gain by convincing kids the holocaust didn't exist? Especially in Cali, don't Jews pretty much own that place?
     

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    May be a better topic would have been Glock vs. 1911!!?? Oh, wait..... all the 8th graders here are still hashing that one out. Never mind!!
     

    Leonidas

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    For all that think so what, its a good thing to teach critical thinking, answer this. You okay that they are reinforcing the notion that About.com and History.com are worthwhile sources for 'critical thought processes?' Lol.

    And how about a little balance in the sources. Like maybe a real holocaust history site.

    If you really think there was not the idea that as long as we are teaching critical thinking, it would be a convenient time to slide a little bit of our agenda in alongside, then I've got resort property in the Gobi for you. They just figured that if there was any backlash, they could cover with the exact bullsh1t that the gullible are buying.

    Remember, for radicals, EVERYTHING is politics.

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