Where cop-killers get their guns...in-depth real research
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No, this, at least on its face, looks reasonable.
But, note how many of the officer shootings were at "domestic disputes", where the shooters were (presumably) legally armed and in their own homes.
If those were separated out, the percentage of stolen weapons used would be much higher.
We should not fear the truth.
To me, the moral is: Officers, be extremely careful on "domestic" calls.
leVieux
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I have a friend who is a LEO in New Jersey, he is issued 2 weapons, but has been trying to get a permit to buy a personal pistol for over a year now, and he keeps getting the hit with red tape at every turn. I think its funny that he can carry his weapon almost anywhere, but can't buy one.
According to the article, a confounder in "legally obtained" weapons is that criminals frequently plead to misdemeanor offenses, which would not exclude one from purchasing a firearm legally. I suspect this happens a lot in New Orleans, where the resources to prosecute are low.
Also, crazies who haven't been committed to a psych facility are a contributing factor.
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It's sad that some people assume that this is all gun control propaganda without actually reading the article in it's entirety. If anything, it supports the lawful gun owner as a non-participant in law enforcement killings. And yes, it absolutely matters where the guns come from because only when a source is identified can an intervention take place.
Legally obtained (107 cases)
Stolen (77)
Police gun (51)
Borrowed or taken from relatives (46)
Obtained on the street (41)
Straw purchase (16)
Illegal purchase from gun show or private seller (3)
State with highest # of LEO killings: California
#2: New York
#3: Louisiana
Legally obtained (107 cases)
Stolen (77)
Police gun (51)
Borrowed or taken from relatives (46)
Obtained on the street (41)
Straw purchase (16)
Illegal purchase from gun show or private seller (3)
State with highest # of LEO killings: California
#2: New York
#3: Louisiana
Funny how everyone they quote and every group they consulted supported more gun control. They used "Facts" from the Violence policy center and Mayor Bloombergs anti gun group of Merry Mayors. Very pro gun piece...
Gun Control is simple. Every Free Man and Woman in this country should be able to purchase a firearm. Period. If you are fit to be free and on your own in society, your are fit to own a firearm in our country. Any form of gun control beyond this is unconstitutional.
I read the piece. Top to bottom, front to back, inside out.
It is 100% PURE ANTI GUN, SCARE THE PUBLIC PROPAGANDA. It serves no other purpose.
REAL Research is NEVER performed by the media. If this was a study performed by a law enforcement agency or a university, I would lend much more credence to their statistics and methods.
Any time an LEO is killed in the line of duty, it is an absolute tragedy. We learn from each of these instances, and train to attempt to prevent it from happening again.
"Louisiana is #3 in the nation." I've lived in Louisiana for 38 years now and last I heard, we didn't have cops being slaughtered in the streets on a daily basis. This piece was DESIGNED to further SCARE a public who is for the most part IGNORANT about guns. The people this article was written for 1) Don't own a gun 2) Are terrified by guns 3) Think only the Police should have guns 4) In their fear and ignorance, do everything they can to further perpetuate the ideas set forth in the article ie: GUNS ARE EVIL, WE SHOULD BAN GUNS.
Nope, they should keep men not fit to be free behind bars and all free men should have equal rights to own firearms.
I was under the impression that when LEOs respond to domestics, they are to take all parties outside the house/establishment. This helps the officer to get control of his surroundings. This is what I thought, anyway.
Once, when I went to the local Sheriff's office to request a welfare check on my children at their mother's, the deputies noticed a neighbor a couple yards over shooting a BB gun or a .22 in their back yard. The deputies went over there first, demanded they stop shooting until they left, then interviewed my children and their mother.
So, I really do think they are trying to get the best control of their environment or they should be doing so.
Furthermore, I will state this: I will hold no ill will against any officer who draws his gun and points (and fires, if necessary) while responding to a domestic, if a party has a gun. In a domestic, situations are heated and emotions are flaring. It can very easily get ugly very quickly.
Aaaand...it's illegal for the government to release information about a gun's history so the next best thing is to find an organization that has the resources to unearth this information. Given that this forum frequently likes to throw around "stats" from media polls that show Obama's approval rating as if it's gospel (don't even get me started on the methods there), I'd say the information here isn't half bad.
I just thought it was interesting that two of the states with the most stringent gun control laws were actually #1 and #2. The article does not make it sound like Louisiana has cops killed everyday. In fact, they've tallied 550 killings in the ENTIRE country in 10 years. If a cop was killed in Louisiana everyday for 10 years, that would be 3650 cops killed in our state alone. The article doesn't even come close to suggesting that cops are being slaughtered and I don't find it particularly scary.
