The way things are today

[Scott.Thornton]

I am currently 29 years old, my wife is 27. We are expecting our first child on November 21, and we are looking foward to it more than most since we have lost once while in the womb. We were raised during a time economic prosperity with plenty all around. In the time since we have graduated high school and moved toward being married, and now living where we live, we have seen the economy falter, and the futures seems bleak at best. I do not think that there will be a huge disaster, but we have planned for that just in case. How do the people near my age group plan to keep the future generations positive during bad times? How do you plan on keeping our future motivated to move past the bull **** that seems to envelope everyday life now, and be a contributing member of society after people have finally pulled their heads out of their asses? We are God fearing folks, and thogh we don't attend church we have a strong faith and live by the good book. I just wonder what you are doing to prepare the future generation for success after the current generation is gone.

 

[Leadfoot]

"Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."

Matthew 6:34

 

[Jack]

I don't have kids and I'm a bit younger than you, so this may be something you've already figured out. Anyways, no matter what the norm is, people accept it as the norm. If we would've been raised in times like today, it wouldn't have been bad, it would've been normal. I'm sure your child will feel the same way. I think we, as a generation, can look back at our parents and realize we will be paying for their luxuries. I have no doubt that we will pay social security, not to collect it, that we fund a medical system we will not be able to enjoy, with that said, because I realize these things I can begin planning for it as I am sure you have, and your child will.

I try to look at things in a positive light, your child and her generation will hopefully be able to remember these times, before they improve, so she and her generation will learn from the mistakes of ours, just like I hope our generation has learned from the mistakes of our parents.

 

[CEHollier]

I am 50 years old and survived the Carter era. I have never been so disillusioned in all of my life. Those who are productive are punished with taxes and red tape. Those who are irresponsible and lazy are rewarded with the fruit of those that work hard in the name of economic equality. If you want to keep what's yours you are labeled a racist and greedy. The system is broken. Our leaders, media, and the government are corrupt. Taxing success to support failure will only encourage failure. This president is a communist and propped by those who do not pay income taxes. I pity your generation.

 

[Scott.Thornton]

I am 50 years old and survived the Carter era. I have never been so disillusioned in all of my life. Those who are productive are punished with taxes and red tape. Those who are irresponsible and lazy are rewarded with the fruit of those that work hard in the name of economic equality. If you want to keep what's yours you are labeled a racist and greedy. The system is broken. Our leaders, media, and the government are corrupt. Taxing success to support failure will only encourage failure. This president is a communist and propped by those who do not pay income taxes. I pity your generation.

We do not desire pity, just guidance from the older generations. I know what you are saying, and it has hit us hard. Well some of us anyway. Some us don't give a ****, but me and my family do.

 

[CEHollier]

We do not desire pity, just guidance from the older generations. I know what you are saying, and it has hit us hard. Well some of us anyway. Some us don't give a ****, but me and my family do.

I really hate the way things are for your generation. I did not vote for this ass hattery. If the politicians creating these problems cannot be un-elected then your options are not good.

 

[Scott.Thornton]

I really hate the way things are for your generation. I did not vote for this ass hattery. If the politicians creating these problems cannot be un-elected then your options are not good.

Yeah I know. I'm thinking my years of paranoia and prepping are starting to have substance. I finally got my parents on the same boat 3 years ago, my inlaws are so damn hippie that they cannot be saved.

 

[CEHollier]

Think about it. The fed is printing money devaluing your savings and inflating prices. This is why gasoline is so expensive. This administration is against proven fuel sources (petrol/coal) and depending on unproven/expensive alternatives solar/wind. His plan was to tax all carbon based energy energy sources raising energy bills and running jobs over seas. The health care bill curtailed that. Another four years of these economic policies and those that produce will cease to do so and those depending on producers will riot when the money stops. It won't be a pretty picture considering producers are the ones accounting for the record firearms and ammunition sales.

 

[Leadfoot]

Charles, you have about 10 years on me, but I lived through the Carter era too.

Although I am not happy about our current administration and want it changed ASAP, I honestly think the 70's were worse.

At least we don't have lines blocks long at the gas pumps, and interest rates around 20%.

 

[Neil09]

Im 21, have a one year old son, and twins on the way. Nothing goes through my mind more than trying to think of how to raise them. Public school or private school? Maybe just home school? Will that make it harder to socialize? Sorry, just thinking out loud....


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[Scott.Thornton]

Charles, you have about 10 years on me, but I lived through the Carter era too.

Although I am not happy about our current administration and want it changed ASAP, I honestly think the 70's were worse.

At least we don't have lines blocks long at the gas pumps, and interest rates around 20%.

I honestly feel like a 45 + year old with what I remember. I grew up with the majority of my influences being a vietnam/korea era populace at a deer camp. I had a few folks that were involved in wwII. I have had very little influence from the hippie era until my wifes parents and I cannot relate to them. I am a product of my raised in environment. .

 

[Charles1959]

I have an 18 yr old daughter in her first year of college and I struggle to keep an optimistic attitude about her future when she is around. Yes, In the 70's we had long gas lines and high gas prices. And those seemed to be the worst of our worries. Now the very fundamentals of our nation are being eroded/corroded and I don't think the general populace understands what is in our near (next 10-15 year) future. One party will bring us there faster than the other but they both will lead us into oblivion.

 

[CEHollier]

Charles, you have about 10 years on me, but I lived through the Carter era too.

Although I am not happy about our current administration and want it changed ASAP, I honestly think the 70's were worse.

At least we don't have lines blocks long at the gas pumps, and interest rates around 20%.

If America continues down the road we are currently on there will be no gasoline and 20% interest rates will look good.

 

[my-rifle]

To the OP, it's not as bad as you think. The 80s were godawful with no jobs and a United States turning more and more to frivolous wars and spending money like there was no tomorrow. It was the era of Reagan's Star Wars program, the 400-capitol ship navy, and the Minuteman missile program when the administration made a conscious effort to spend our taxes so freely that the Soviets would give up the race against us. The United States went trillions of dollars into debt. Of course the Soviets dropped out, but we were left with a tremendous national debt, and we were firmly on the path of tax and spend government. The future looked bleak, and all over the nation people began stocking their retreats, so when the revolution happened they could escape the cities to their places of relative safety.

Of course it didn't happen then, and it won't happen now. Every generation is faced with their time of trials, but they eventually emerge from it. This crisis will pass too. Your generation will do what ours did in the 90s, and clean up the mess left behind by the previous decade. Then like us, you'll screw it up and leave a mess for your kids to fix. They'll wonder if the end has indeed finally come, and the wheel will continue to turn as it did for you and it did for us and our parents too. Ours is a strong nation, but our strength is also our weakness.

 

[LACamper]

I'm in my mid 40's so my outlook is a bit different. I remember my parents struggling with a 17% interest mortgage and watching the economy tear itself apart under carter. Lately for some reason (duh...) I've been thinking of the Iranian Hostage Crisis. Then Reagan stepped in. Things got better, jobs came back, the Iranians caved, the cold war ended. Yes, it was expensive, but we no longer had to teach kids to hide under their desks in case the USSR decided to launch nukes from Cuba.

Reagan, along with a conservative Congress, fixed the problems. We can do it again. Seeing how badly a liberal can screw things up might open some eyes. There is that hope...

 

[42]

The 70's will be a cakewalk compared to what's coming.

Every Executive Order for National Defense Resources Preparedness that has been authored, superceded or revoked since the anti-Vietnam protests in 1971 is evidence of this.

 

[Scott.Thornton]

To the OP, it's not as bad as you think. The 80s were godawful with no jobs and a United States turning more and more to frivolous wars and spending money like there was no tomorrow. It was the era of Reagan's Star Wars program, the 400-capitol ship navy, and the Minuteman missile program when the administration made a conscious effort to spend our taxes so freely that the Soviets would give up the race against us. The United States went trillions of dollars into debt. Of course the Soviets dropped out, but we were left with a tremendous national debt, and we were firmly on the path of tax and spend government. The future looked bleak, and all over the nation people began stocking their retreats, so when the revolution happened they could escape the cities to their places of relative safety.

Of course it didn't happen then, and it won't happen now. Every generation is faced with their time of trials, but they eventually emerge from it. This crisis will pass too. Your generation will do what ours did in the 90s, and clean up the mess left behind by the previous decade. Then like us, you'll screw it up and leave a mess for your kids to fix. They'll wonder if the end has indeed finally come, and the wheel will continue to turn as it did for you and it did for us and our parents too. Ours is a strong nation, but our strength is also our weakness.

Reagan was a far cry better than the system now. At least there was a plan and he knew where he was headed. The prosperity following his administration is proof of the concept. Even our modern day badasses are way too liberal. The old men I grew up with are now gone, but I know where they would stand on current events. There would not be any of this selective fire bull dealing with our enemies, it would be with or against us. Plain and simple, no halfway bull that we get now.

 

[Nomad.2nd]

I'm ignoring it.

I want a place off grid where lots of food grow with little input from me, where people leave me be, and regulations are low.

I dislike debt and keep $ saved, am working on mutable streams of income and not being dependent on any one or two things.

I'm tired of intrusiveness of gov't, corporations, and people. They suck and I'm done worrying about it.

If nothing happens: I plan on enjoying life
If something happens: I plan on enjoying life.

 

[M-66supersingle]

I was homeschooled, and I can tell you that the myth of homeschoolers havinga hard time socializing is bullcrap. Just dont isolate them and they will be fine.

Im 21, have a one year old son, and twins on the way. Nothing goes through my mind more than trying to think of how to raise them. Public school or private school? Maybe just home school? Will that make it harder to socialize? Sorry, just thinking out loud....


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[Scott.Thornton]

I'm ignoring it.

I want a place off grid where lots of food grow with little input from me, where people leave me be, and regulations are low.

I dislike debt and keep $ saved, am working on mutable streams of income and not being dependent on any one or two things.

I'm tired of intrusiveness of gov't, corporations, and people. They suck and I'm done worrying about it.

If nothing happens: I plan on enjoying life
If something happens: I plan on enjoying life.

That is great, but I don't see reference to you helping society via your own good genetic material. If I was only worried about me it would be a lot easier. Things get more difficult when you factor in offspring and raising them to not be bitter, and a positive member of society.