26 million Americans believe that Violence is justified to keep DJT out of the WH: additional 58mil OK with it -

[thperez1972]

Point is reporting other men to the staff because of hurt feelings is a dick move.

For the record, I've gotten no such reports. I also looked through the posts that are reported when someone clicks "report" at the bottom of the post and there is nothing there as well. If anyone reports a post from this thread because of hurt feelings, they would have reported it directly to another mod. For the record, the only "hurt feelings" report I saw from any thread in the last few months did not involve any major contributor in this thread. And it wasn't reported by a "user." It was reported by a mod so we could discuss it in private.

 

[sil-40]

You would be able to come up with a few isolated examples. But you would not be able to come up with a long list of widespread violence that has been condoned, and even encouraged, by elected member of the political party. There is no tit for tat when it comes to party endorsed violence. This is not "a practice in disillusionment at best or a mischaracterization of reality at worst." The Democrat party has justified violence because they believe they have morally superiority and the end justifies the means.

Perez,
I'd invite you to take a fresh-eyed look at the statistics as well as a list of incidents over 60 long. Isolated is not a word I'd use.

You are being redirected...

It's not exhaustive by any means as they don't mention threats of violence in which no legal action was taken. Right-wing threats of death/violence were made to Maricopa, AZ and Georgia officials (state and local) during the election confirmation process threatening the officials and their families.

For a broader look at the rise in political violence, looking at both the right and left sides of the spectrum:

The Rise in Political Violence in the United States and Damage to Our Democracy

Acceptance of political violence has been rising sharply over the past five years. The damage that this violence itself, and the conspiracies driving it, are causing to U.S. democracy are already substantial and are likely to produce significant democratic decline if not arrested soon.

carnegieendowment.org

As for elected, conservative officials not condoning or encouraging violence or veiled threats against opposition, you may want to revisit that. Even a tertiary look can find Donald Trump, Kari Lake, Mark Robinson, Margarie Taylor Green, Tom Cotton and Matt Gaetz all having said and/or supported violence/violent rhetoric against American citizens.

Eat more red meat and have your T levels checked! Seriously.

Let me explain. When men get together it can be brutal especially when we are here to talk about politics or social issues.

When i was in my late 20s early 30s my best bud was a cop so i would be invited to campouts with his friends almost all cops. Overall i had a blast but it was brutal those guys can mess with you so bad that if you showed any insecurities you might as well go home. Lol

I honestly don't have a clue what you're trying to say or prove here.

Point is reporting other men to the staff because of hurt feelings is a dick move. Enjoy your conversations learn from others and stop repeating the same tired talking points you hear echoed in the press.

If this is your point, then you're mistaken. I didn't report anyone...ever.

 

[hotbiggun]

I honestly don't have a clue what you're trying to say or prove here.



If this is your point, then you're mistaken. I didn't report anyone...ever.

Then carry on i was only trying to help you.
Please tell us the latest the MSM has accused Trump of doing incase we all have missed something!

 

[thperez1972]

Perez,
I'd invite you to take a fresh-eyed look at the statistics as well as a list of incidents over 60 long. Isolated is not a word I'd use.

You are being redirected...

It's not exhaustive by any means as they don't mention threats of violence in which no legal action was taken. Right-wing threats of death/violence were made to Maricopa, AZ and Georgia officials (state and local) during the election confirmation process threatening the officials and their families.

For a broader look at the rise in political violence, looking at both the right and left sides of the spectrum:

The Rise in Political Violence in the United States and Damage to Our Democracy

Acceptance of political violence has been rising sharply over the past five years. The damage that this violence itself, and the conspiracies driving it, are causing to U.S. democracy are already substantial and are likely to produce significant democratic decline if not arrested soon.

carnegieendowment.org

As for elected, conservative officials not condoning or encouraging violence or veiled threats against opposition, you may want to revisit that. Even a tertiary look can find Donald Trump, Kari Lake, Mark Robinson, Margarie Taylor Green, Tom Cotton and Matt Gaetz all having said and/or supported violence/violent rhetoric against American citizens.

Thank you for the links. Your list of isolated incidents helps to prove my point. The incidents mostly involved 1 to 3 people and I didn't see any incidents that mentioned being condoned by any right wing republican party. I previously stated you would not be able to come up with a long list of widespread violence that has been condoned, and even encouraged, by elected member of the political party and your links have shown that, so far, I am right.

 

[sil-40]

As defined by Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
"isolated - occurring alone or once: unique"

Something happening dozens of times is not isolated and I would say meets the criteria of wide spread.

But I guess since you said "I am right", that must be it then.

 

[thperez1972]

As defined by Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
"isolated - occurring alone or once: unique"

Yep

Something happening dozens of times is not isolated and I would say meets the criteria of wide spread.

I agree 100%

But I guess since you said "I am right", that must be it then.

Nope, that's not why

 

[jdindadell]

I could say that a person who supports a known compulsive liar, convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, and nepotist as a republican presidential candidate could be indoctrinated but I don’t and do you know why? Because coming at you personally detracts from the discussion of facts and reality. It creates a toxic, disrespectful environment where you and I can’t converse as equals. You mistakenly confuse a lack of support for the DJT/MAGA movement as an indication that my political beliefs must somehow fall somewhere to the left. It’s an ignorant assumption that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Can we dissect your "description" of Trump?

known compulsive liar: is this referring to unrealized campaign promises or something in his personal life? Sadly all politicians seem to embody this at one point or another, especially if we include promises made during the campaign.

convicted felon: he was convicted of a bunch of counts of falsified business records that lead back to an "out of court" settlement with a former love interest. Not sure if that really counts as the same kind of felonies that cause widespread problems, like treason...

adjudicated rapist: so he was "judicially declared" a rapist? I would need some more info to validate that claim. Yet again, not many of the political elite have dodged a rape allegation. Or being tied to Epstein which is about as bad.

Nepotist: this is another of those "BS" words that really have no easily defined meaning. So he favored a kid or family member in some way shape or form... Doesn't everyone favor their immediate family? Am I a nepotist for putting my daughter 1st, even before myself? If I was going to sell my business would I be a nepotist if i offered someone in my family 1st refusal? And yet again these "trigger words" just keep being brought up instead of correctly describing the actions of the person in question.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a die hard trump supporter. He did things i do not like, the bump stock ban being near the top of the list. Not cause I love bump stocks (they are silly) but because i hate how laws get twisted and all of us bear the unfavorable consequences. And then precedents get set and the legal system stalls out. But, and it is a big but here, he is the better choice over Harris and the Democrats. The economy needs the "illusion" of improvement that A Republican president provides. Not sure i can articulate that concepts any other way.

The Demos had 4 yrs and it is worse than when they started. Biden is not physically or mentally capable of running the country and I sure do not like being represented to the world by a future recipient of a nursing home's "least cognitively capable resident" award. Harris is just not up to task, she has proven that in many botched interviews. Plus I dont like her as a person (there, I said it). Dont like Trump either, but he is the lesser of 2 evils.

I would prefer a more middle of the road candidate. But this world does not care about middle of the road, it is all about polarizing ever single issue. The trick they use to run us is just keep us scared and angry... Its working.

 

[thperez1972]

Bolt Head, we still see deleted posts. No.

 

[Bolt Head]

Bolt Head, we still see deleted posts. No.