SpeedRacer
Well-Known Member
why do they use so a "specific" round? It isnt really a norm/cheap like 40/45acp
Because Sig has great sales people.
why do they use so a "specific" round? It isnt really a norm/cheap like 40/45acp
why do they use so a "specific" round? It isnt really a norm/cheap like 40/45acp
The 357 SIG is no more expensive than 45 ACP especially when you factor in an agency contract at the price the are usually able to negotiate. As far as the 357 SIG ballisticly it is a great round. The US Secret Service still use it as well as the Federal Air Marshals and several other state police agencies that have never had issues. A lot of times with state contracts they do change with the administration. New Governor usually means new state police brass etc. That admin change usually has more of an effect or reason on any "switch" or "new duty gun issue" than a major problem with the firearm. The one exception was the Indiana state police. They went to the Glock 22 and immediately had issues that Glock wouldn't address. They went to the model 17 in 9mm and were happy but wanted a different caliber. Then last year they adopted Glock 21's in 45 acp in GEN 4. They again immediately had issues again and are now getting ready to adopt the new SIG 227 (basically a double stack 220 in 45 acp). ISP tried to do Glocks (several of the firearms board troopers were Glock fanatics) but with all the issues the new superintendent decided SIGs were what they would do.
Wow. That sounds like a fiasco.
My choice would be Ameriglo sights on Gen 4 G17 for Uniformed Personnel and Gen 4 G19 for Non Uniformed Personnel with HST 124+P or Gold Dot 124+P ammunition and call it a day.
I want to say I agree with this 100%, though I have some vague memory in the back of my mind about 124+P vs. 147. Can't for the life of me remember..something about barrel lengths and penetration? Why do you prefer the 124+P? VG, why do you prefer the 147?
I want to say I agree with this 100%, though I have some vague memory in the back of my mind about 124+P vs. 147. Can't for the life of me remember..something about barrel lengths and penetration? Why do you prefer the 124+P? VG, why do you prefer the 147?
It's always a compromise. Against a barrier I'd rather have 147gr, against flesh I'd rather have 124gr. Maybe I need to just quit worrying about it and switch to .357Sig.
Whenever I see a mini-Glock in .357 Sig at In-Service I always watch (kinda like a train wreck). Then I'll ask to shoot a couple rounds to reaffirm why I would never want to buy or carry one. I will say the LEO's I see shooting them of their own volition are usually quite capable of handling the violence.
if you are hung-up on the 9 124gr vs. 147gr just stagger them in your mags after you confirm your carry gun will eat them in that configuration.
I have killed many clothed gellitin rectangles and some even behind sheetrock. No matter how great and fun that crap is bullets don't work and more.... fast and accurately is better.
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I want to say I agree with this 100%, though I have some vague memory in the back of my mind about 124+P vs. 147. Can't for the life of me remember..something about barrel lengths and penetration? Why do you prefer the 124+P? VG, why do you prefer the 147?