All UN small arms/reloading treaty threads

[SpeedRacer]

We are very much headed down the same path as Greece. But look who is doing the rioting there and why. It ain't about founding fathers or taxes or any of that romantic stuff. It's the lower class who are getting their free stuff taken away.

 

[Brian22]

We are very much headed down the same path as Greece. But look who is doing the rioting there and why. It ain't about founding fathers or taxes or any of that romantic stuff. It's the lower class who are getting their free stuff taken away.

Yeah, was sort of getting off my original topic there, the first point outlining the "when/how long"s from a historical standpoint, the second outlining the "hows" of a modern revolution. The "gimme gimme gimme" crowd are the ones affected the most. Having gone from 28 million on food stamps in 2008 to a whopping 46.7 million today(15% of the population), that's a big gang to **** off.

 

[USMC-Deano]

Let's pretend for a second this is true and passes. How would this new federal law conflict with Louisiana's recently passed 2A amendment? Am I the only one seeing a big divide between what the states want and what the feds want? Weed legalization in CO and WA is on the same level - legal statewise but illegal federally. Taken to the extreme, could this launch a secession or revolution? Not fearmongering/conspiricizing, but it's a strange thing to see, this disparity between the states and feds....

I'm quite alright with the proposed Jesusland secession...and I'm not what you'd call a "Christian." Obviously, after this election, we'd have to seriously consider re-zoning Florida in with the U.S.C.

 

[Leonidas]

Most likely forever. Remember, "we the people" just re-elected Obama.

"We" does not mean "me and the people that agree with me". It means the entirety of the US populace.

Remember also, that in 1775 fewer than 1 in 3 colonials favored independence.

 

[SpeedRacer]

Remember also, that in 1775 fewer than 1 in 3 colonials favored independence.

Remember also, it ain't 1775.

 

[Leonidas]

Remember also, it ain't 1775.

Not sure that matters. Seem to recall a few successful rebellions in 2012.

 

[tim9lives]

An official at the U.S. mission said Washington's objectives have not changed.

"We seek a treaty that contributes to international security by fighting illicit arms trafficking and proliferation, protects the sovereign right of states to conduct legitimate arms trade, and meets the concerns that we have been articulating throughout," the official said.

"We will not accept any treaty that infringes on the constitutional rights of our citizens to bear arms," he said.

 

[buttanic]

Shame on Mary

MARY LANDRIEU JUST VOTED AGAINST UPHOLDING THE 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTSIt didn’t work! Sorry Mary! You are on record now…please be sure to share this with everyone you know who can help us get someone in the Senate in 2014 who stands for America.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=113&session=1&vote=00091

U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 1st Session
as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate
Vote Summary
Question: On the Amendment (Inhofe Amdt. No. 139 )
Vote Number: 91 Vote Date: March 23, 2013, 04:30 AM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Agreed to
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 139 to S.Con.Res. 8 (No short title on file)

Statement of Purpose: To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty.

Vote Counts: YEAs 53
NAYs 46
Not Voting 1

Vote Summary
By Senator Name
By Vote Position
By Home State


Alphabetical by Senator Name
Alexander (R-TN), Yea
Ayotte (R-NH), Yea
Baldwin (D-WI), Nay
Barrasso (R-WY), Yea
Baucus (D-MT), Nay
Begich (D-AK), Yea
Bennet (D-CO), Nay
Blumenthal (D-CT), Nay
Blunt (R-MO), Yea
Boozman (R-AR), Yea
Boxer (D-CA), Nay
Brown (D-OH), Nay
Burr (R-NC), Yea
Cantwell (D-WA), Nay
Cardin (D-MD), Nay
Carper (D-DE), Nay
Casey (D-PA), Nay
Chambliss (R-GA), Yea
Coats (R-IN), Yea
Coburn (R-OK), Yea
Cochran (R-MS), Yea
Collins (R-ME), Yea
Coons (D-DE), Nay
Corker (R-TN), Yea
Cornyn (R-TX), Yea
Cowan (D-MA), Nay
Crapo (R-ID), Yea
Cruz (R-TX), Yea
Donnelly (D-IN), Yea
Durbin (D-IL), Nay
Enzi (R-WY), Yea
Feinstein (D-CA), Nay
Fischer (R-NE), Yea
Flake (R-AZ), Yea
Franken (D-MN), Nay
Gillibrand (D-NY), Nay
Graham (R-SC), Yea
Grassley (R-IA), Yea
Hagan (D-NC), Yea
Harkin (D-IA), Nay
Hatch (R-UT), Yea
Heinrich (D-NM), Yea
Heitkamp (D-ND), Yea
Heller (R-NV), Yea
Hirono (D-HI), Nay
Hoeven (R-ND), Yea
Inhofe (R-OK), Yea
Isakson (R-GA), Yea
Johanns (R-NE), Yea
Johnson (D-SD), Nay
Johnson (R-WI), Yea
Kaine (D-VA), Nay
King (I-ME), Nay
Kirk (R-IL), Yea
Klobuchar (D-MN), Nay
Landrieu (D-LA), Nay
Lautenberg (D-NJ), Not Voting
Leahy (D-VT), Nay
Lee (R-UT), Yea
Levin (D-MI), Nay
Manchin (D-WV), Yea
McCain (R-AZ), Yea
McCaskill (D-MO), Nay
McConnell (R-KY), Yea
Menendez (D-NJ), Nay
Merkley (D-OR), Nay
Mikulski (D-MD), Nay
Moran (R-KS), Yea Murkowski (R-AK), Yea
Murphy (D-CT), Nay
Murray (D-WA), Nay
Nelson (D-FL), Nay
Paul (R-KY), Yea
Portman (R-OH), Yea
Pryor (D-AR), Yea
Reed (D-RI), Nay
Reid (D-NV), Nay
Risch (R-ID), Yea
Roberts (R-KS), Yea
Rockefeller (D-WV), Nay
Rubio (R-FL), Yea
Sanders (I-VT), Nay
Schatz (D-HI), Nay
Schumer (D-NY), Nay
Scott (R-SC), Yea
Sessions (R-AL), Yea
Shaheen (D-NH), Nay
Shelby (R-AL), Yea
Stabenow (D-MI), Nay
Tester (D-MT), Yea
Thune (R-SD), Yea
Toomey (R-PA), Yea
Udall (D-CO), Nay
Udall (D-NM), Nay
Vitter (R-LA), Yea
Warner (D-VA), Nay
Warren (D-MA), Nay
Whitehouse (D-RI), Nay
Wicker (R-MS), Yea
Wyden (D-OR), Nay
In GOD We Trust

 

[headspace]

Uh, PIIHB!!?

 

[VeedUp]

We need to be sure to keep reminding her we're watching. But still get her out in 2014.

 

[Emperor]

I don't have time to disseminate the language in the instrument, so I would have to know for sure if this dumbass voted against the 2nd, or if there was language included that would make abortions illegal.

These con-artists pull this crap all the time up there.

I am working tirelessly against her already for prostituting her existence for pretender care, so it's a moot point to me.

 

[Leadfoot]

Why do Dem's hate America so much?

I find it odd that notorious anti gun Senator Frank Lautenberg didn't vote on this.

Seems like nothing could be more important to him than taking away the 2A rights of Americans.

 

[buttanic]

I don't have time to disseminate the language in the instrument, so I would have to know for sure if this dumbass voted against the 2nd, or if there was language included that would make abortions illegal.

These con-artists pull this crap all the time up there.

I am working tirelessly against her already for prostituting her existence for pretender care, so it's a moot point to me.

Looks like an amendment to a budget resolution, Vitter was a co author of the amendment.

 

[Emperor]

Looks like an amendment to a budget resolution, Vitter was a co author of the amendment.

So how did we get to a place, or allow these idiots to water down important issues with nonsense ammendments and add-ons?

It's akin to tying a "yea" vote for the Ahfgan War to the yearly budget for the USDA. We're not getting these scam artists on record for anything; because no one they serve (including themselves), understands what they are actually voting for when they do.

Really pathetic!

 

[my-rifle]

So how did we get to a place, or allow these idiots to water down important issues with nonsense ammendments and add-ons?

It's akin to tying a "yea" vote for the Ahfgan War to the yearly budget for the USDA. We're not getting these scam artists on record for anything; because no one they serve (including themselves), understands what they are actually voting for when they do.

Really pathetic!

Not to say this is a nonsense issue, but you're right: It has no business being amended to a budget.

 

[mADWAND]

http://www.gunowners.org/a03252013a.htm

The Lee amendment which would require Senators to muster 67 votes before adopting gun control legislation.

There were six “Red State” Democrats who voted Against the Lee amendment — Senators Mark Begich (AK), Tim Johnson (SD), Tim Kaine (VA), Mary Landrieu (LA), Harry Reid (NV) and Mark Warner (VA). Gun owners in these states should be sure to voice their displeasure with these Senators.

Gun owners in Louisiana and Nevada, you have some homework to do — Mary Landrieu and Harry Reid need to hear from you!​

Regardless of what it was amending, she voted FOR gun control.

 

[my-rifle]

Knowing Mary Landrieu as I do I know she is definitely not anti-2nd Amendment. She is however in a situation in which the nation very badly needs a budget passed, and this amendment would very likely have killed the budget - as in made it impossible to pass. Knowing her as I do, I think this is much more likely why she voted against the amendment. Why not introduce the issue as a bill to stand on its own two feet? Why all the sneaky subterfuge?

 

[mADWAND]

I don't know how you know her, but I know her as a criminal I have dealt with in the past. I let her go because I couldn't afford the shitstorm it would have generated if I had arrested a U.S. Senator. I also know her as the traitorous bitch who took a $300,000 bribe from Obama to swing his health care plan.

 

[Emperor]

I don't know how you know her, but I know her as a criminal I have dealt with in the past. I let her go because I couldn't afford the shitstorm it would have generated if I had arrested a U.S. Senator. I also know her as the traitorous bitch who took a $300,000 bribe from Obama to swing his health care plan.

I don't know her to that extent, but I do know her as the "prostitute" of pretendercare. BTW: Did you see that it is going to cost more than the dogshitocrats lied and said it would.

I know! Can't be true, right?

"God, I hate them all! Please tell me their day of reckoning is to come before I die!"
Emperor 3:12

 

[corey d]

Mary Landrieu is a piece of ****....