best way to avoid getting screwed?

[Dave328]

I have heard of this type of scam many many times, all originate in Fl. There is a huge thread on hkpro.com. Unfortunately ATF will do nothing, since technically no weapon was involved.

 

[Coonie]

That's the kind of thing the ATF 'should' be working on!

I think the large number of scammers from Florida is due to the large number of seniors there. Those scammers aren't just doing gun scams.

I think if I were going to buy a gun from Florida I'd drive there, inspect the gun, then hand him the money in a UPS office as he ships it to my FFL. That way its all legal and you know its on the way.

UPS packages can be intercepted and rerouted, I have that option through my UPS account at work. The scammer could have the item returned.

I would only buy online through GunBroker because feedback could be checked and GB checks user validity by confirming credit card on file with users billing address, its not a guarantee but at least they could provide authorities with a location to start with.

I've bought and sold many items ( user name Good Sight) and only accept and pay with USPS money order because the MO can be checked over the phone and if there is the chance of a scam, you get the postal police involved for mail fraud. I think they would love to have something to do and charge some scum-bag with a federal offense. And it helps to have a friend whos an FFL, he does all my shipping and receiving and gives me a secure piece of mind.

I would post guns for sale on Bayou Shooter from the peeples republik ov Illinois but you guys have more firearms than we do up here and I couldn't sell 'em that cheap, I paid too much for this stuff

 

[carlosd321]

Well not saying that is incorrect but I am dealing with USPS now about my money order and its not going so well. I thought the same thing, secure and its federal. Apparently I was wrong and from what I Know now the only person protected by the money order is the one receiving it. They wont let me stop payment on it or anything like that. all they can do is say if its been cashed and it may take up to thirty days for that. If Im lucky someone other than the person whos name is on it has cashed it and maybe I will have a chance but I doubt it. just FYI

 

[CEHollier]

I do not deal with anyone unless it is a FTF transfer. To quote Steve (LSP) "All that glitters is not gold."

 

[Akajun]

Not that I'm suggesting doing anything illegal, but wouldnt it be funny if nexttime someone found one of thier scams that they send them "payment" with a counterfiet check or Money Order? They would have so much explaining to do and would definatly expose whoever was cahsing the checks.

 

[MyTFAL]

The Add is back on La sportsman

 

[Akajun]

I sent out a line, Ill see if he'll bite.

 

[Guate_shooter]

Somebody posted also an ADD on sportsman refering to the scam, lots of scammers online. I have had great success with gunbroker in the past, and most of the time even on GB I only buy from somebody with a good amount of feedback, and if the account is NR (not registered) stay away or deal with his FFL directly. Another big scam on LASportsman is the puppys and the monkeys and exotic animals, supposely they ship them to you from overseas bla bla bla, no questions ask you can make a killing selling them once they reproduce, they would still have to clear customs be on quarantine and all that stuff, Some people just put themselves on a bad spot.

 

[MyTFAL]

I put the scam warning up, hope it saves someone the angst

 

[Witness]

The Add is back on La sportsman

Link?

 

[Hothand]

If I Am Not Mistaken A Gentelman Was Already Taken Advantage Of On Same Deal Posted Several Months Back On The Sportsman. The New Add Is Almost Identical Less Pics,

 

[Akajun]

Allright, I got him going.


heres our emails so far.

sorry about the confusion, I live in NC...are you still interested? i can ship to you or your FFL and i will cover shipping cost..Let me know what works for you. i have a license.


Thanks







-----Original Message-----
From: akajun
To: robaed@aol.com
Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 11:40 pm
Subject: RE: m1a


Port Allen, But Im on the road a lot and travel throughought the south.


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To: akajun
Subject: Re: m1a
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 17:17:07 -0500
From: robaed@aol.com

where are you located?





-----Original Message-----
From: akajun
To: ablejud@gmail.com
Sent: Wed, Jan 6, 2010 10:54 pm
Subject: m1a

 

[Akajun]

I just replied that I am an ffl also and that if he gives me an address Ill get payment to him asap.

Any suggestions from the peanut gallery would be entertained?

Might send him a dog turd in a box.

 

[DesmoDucRob]

I'm not sure stirring the pot is the right approach, but I once heard a story where a person who was wronged by a scammer got him to bite again. He sent the scammer on a wild goose chase, and had him waiting at various wire transfer locations. The guy turned it into a sort of pet project, and in the end saw a bit of satisfaction in knowing he at was able to waste the scammers time.

 

[Akajun]

I'm not sure stirring the pot is the right approach, but I once heard a story where a person who was wronged by a scammer got him to bite again. He sent the scammer on a wild goose chase, and had him waiting at various wire transfer locations. The guy turned it into a sort of pet project, and in the end saw a bit of satisfaction in knowing he at was able to waste the scammers time.

Though I have no dog in this fight, but I hate scammers and thieves. If we could all waste his time, he would get some of the frustration his victims felt.

 

[Turn Key]

Kick his ass

Get him invited up near where guys live and give him a good ole' country ass whippin'...



TK

 

[CEHollier]

Tell him you will be in Tampa next week and want a FTF see if he bites.

 

[Akajun]

Well he is in NC,

Here is his last reply

Ok thats fine then, You can send me a postal money order only by USPS Express mail to


Name : Robert A. Edwards
Address: 2855 woodside dr,
Clayton, N.C 27520.


Email me back with your shipping information.


Thanks.

Ill tell him that by a stroke of luck, I have a hot shot driver going to Clayton North Carolina and will have him pick it up.

Looking it up on Google Earth, I see that it is a trailer park.

The three listings for that address are unlisted phone numbers, but the names are Amanda Candella, Shawn Candella, and Connie j. Edwards.

The only phone # I can find for a Robert A Edwards is 251 Walden Woods, Apex NC. 919-387-7564.

 

[MyTFAL]

He's selling it to me too.........

sorry about the confusion, I live in NC...are you still interested? i can ship to you or your FFL and i will cover shipping cost..Let me know what works for you. i have a license.


Thanks

Here's the link ,someone asked for it

http://www.louisianasportsman.com/l...sifieds&event=view&action=single_ad&id=136433

 

[Hothand]

The people with the rifle just sent me an e-mail with pics. They are the same as posted several months ago. The e-mail address it was sent from is robaed@aol.com...ROBBED??