"House panel advances bill requiring 25-foot distance from police officers"

[thperez1972]

I wonder if anyone here is opposed to this.

"On Tuesday, May 28, Governor Jeff Landry made it illegal for anyone at a crime scene, who is not involved, to be within 25 feet of an officer who is lawfully conducting their duties."

New law changes the way you interact with police at a crime scene

Governor Landry made it illegal for anyone at a crime scene, who is not involved, to be within 25ft of an officer who’s lawfully conducting their duties.

www.wafb.com

"A House committee moved forward with a bill Tuesday that would criminalize coming within 25 feet of an on-duty police officer if ordered to stop by the officer."

House panel advances bill requiring 25-foot distance from police officers

BATON ROUGE, La. – A House committee moved forward with a bill Tuesday that would criminalize coming within 25 feet of an on-duty police officer if ordered to stop by

www.ktbs.com

 

[hotbiggun]

So is the purpose of the bill to protect officers are stop people from filming?

 

[thperez1972]

So is the purpose of the bill to protect officers are stop people from filming?

It's to keep people far enough away so they are not interfering with the police doing their job while allowing them to be close enough to observe and video the officers doing their job.

 

[hotbiggun]

It's to keep people far enough away so they are not interfering with the police doing their job while allowing them to be close enough to observe and video the officers doing their job.

I agree that some of these auditors are screaming insults just to get clicks and maybe a lawsuit and creating a unsafe situation for everyone involved in the investigation. so i would think there would be a way of criminilizing these actions. But 25ft law? We know what will happen, the officer will take 2 steps towards the auiditors and arrest them for breaking the 25ft law.
These auditors are needed and if they refuse to police their own then the .gov should step in.

 

[Manimal]

Totally against this. All an officer has to do is walk in an onlookers direction and they are creating a moving buffer that prevents the public from seeing public activity. This will be blatantly abused like every other privilege law enforcement enjoys.


It'll pass, this is Louisiana.

 

[AdvancedLaser]

I agree that some of these auditors are screaming insults just to get clicks and maybe a lawsuit and creating a unsafe situation for everyone involved in the investigation. so i would think there would be a way of criminilizing these actions. But 25ft law? We know what will happen, the officer will take 2 steps towards the auiditors and arrest them for breaking the 25ft law.
These auditors are needed and if they refuse to police their own then the .gov should step in.

"We know what will happen"....Specifically how do you know that if the law isnt even passed yet ? Your preconceived anti Law Enforcement bias at work. And who is "We?"

 

[thperez1972]

I agree that some of these auditors are screaming insults just to get clicks and maybe a lawsuit and creating a unsafe situation for everyone involved in the investigation. so i would think there would be a way of criminilizing these actions. But 25ft law? We know what will happen, the officer will take 2 steps towards the auiditors and arrest them for breaking the 25ft law.
These auditors are needed and if they refuse to police their own then the .gov should step in.

So you think a better solution would be for the government to target what a person can say and how they can say it? And the law is meant for everyone, not just people who review financial information to ensure accuracy and compliance with regulations.

 

[DBMJR1]

Are the police going to be issued measuring devices ?

 

[hotbiggun]

So you think a better solution would be for the government to target what a person can say and how they can say it? And the law is meant for everyone, not just people who review financial information to ensure accuracy and compliance with regulations.

They already do, they are called "fighting words"

• US•LAW
  insulting or provocative words, especially of an ethnic, racial, or sexist nature, considered unacceptable or unlawful by certain institutions and afforded less protection than free speech.
  "among the limitations are that the fighting words must be clearly directed at the person who hears them"

What is your solution to the problem?

 

[hotbiggun]

"We know what will happen"....Specifically how do you know that if the law isnt even passed yet ? Your preconceived anti Law Enforcement bias at work. And who is "We?"

While your opinion of me is entertaining, i guess, what is your solution?

 

[jdindadell]

Will john Q Public be able to quote this law as he is running away from the Police and then use it as his defense in court?

"Why we you running from the police?"
"I was just trying to stay at least 25 feet away so i did not commit a crime."

 

[thperez1972]

They already do, they are called "fighting words"

• US•LAW
  insulting or provocative words, especially of an ethnic, racial, or sexist nature, considered unacceptable or unlawful by certain institutions and afforded less protection than free speech.
  "among the limitations are that the fighting words must be clearly directed at the person who hears them"

That specific subset of speech could be viewed as disturbing the police. But there's a whole spectrum of speech that does not fall under disturbing the peace or any other ordinance or statute. What law would you put in place that makes a mother yelling "don't arrest my son" illegal?

What is your solution to the problem?

The solution is not limiting the speech itself. The mother is free to verbally oppose or challenge police action, just not while standing next to the officer and interfering with the police. Do you support every bystander having the right to interfere with the police doing their job?

 

[hotbiggun]

That specific subset of speech could be viewed as disturbing the police. But there's a whole spectrum of speech that does not fall under disturbing the peace or any other ordinance or statute. What law would you put in place that makes a mother yelling "don't arrest my son" illegal?



The solution is not limiting the speech itself. The mother is free to verbally oppose or challenge police action, just not while standing next to the officer and interfering with the police. Do you support every bystander having the right to interfere with the police doing their job?

No i dont that is why i believe these auditors need rules. Im pretty sure the 25ft rule is to put a restriction on thier actions. If you think its for a mother or family member interfering with a investigation well thats another matter.

 

[GunRelated]

Believe it or not, there are times when cops are in the wrong. This law would make it easier for them to get away with being in the wrong.

It's already illegal to interfere with police duties.

 

[GunRelated]

They already do, they are called "fighting words"

• US•LAW
  insulting or provocative words, especially of an ethnic, racial, or sexist nature, considered unacceptable or unlawful by certain institutions and afforded less protection than free speech.
  "among the limitations are that the fighting words must be clearly directed at the person who hears them"

What is your solution to the problem?

Them's fite'n wurds

Who knew this phrase actually references a law? Not me


Honestly though, I thought this was America? As long as the verbal communication is not of a threatening nature, it is, or should be, considered free speech.

 

[thperez1972]

Believe it or not, there are times when cops are in the wrong. This law would make it easier for them to get away with being in the wrong.

This still allows bystanders to do everything they could do before. They just can't do it in a way that interferes with police duties.

It's already illegal to interfere with police duties.

RS 14:329. Interfering with a law enforcement investigation
A. Interfering with a law enforcement investigation is the intentional interference or obstruction of a law enforcement officer conducting investigative work at the scene of a crime or the scene of an accident by refusing to move or leave the immediate scene of the crime or the accident when ordered to do so by the law enforcement officer when the offender has reasonable grounds to believe the officer is acting in the performance of his official duties.

Can you provide an unambiguous definition for "immediate scene?"

 

[thperez1972]

No i dont that is why i believe these auditors need rules. Im pretty sure the 25ft rule is to put a restriction on thier actions. If you think its for a mother or family member interfering with a investigation well thats another matter.

The 25 foot rule is to put a restriction on actions. It's so the auditors, cashiers, arborists, cartographers, cytotechnologists, gemologists, herpetologists, industrial designers, horse jockeys, kinesiologists, meteorologists, nuclear engineers, orthodontists, phlebotomists, quarry managers, robotics technicians, sommeliers, taxidermists, urban planners, volcanologists, wildlife rehabilitators, zoologists, and pretty much every other occupation and even people who are unemployed don't interfere with the investigation.

 

[hotbiggun]

Them's fite'n wurds

Who knew this phrase actually references a law? Not me


Honestly though, I thought this was America? As long as the verbal communication is not of a threatening nature, it is, or should be, considered free speech.

Seems stupid doesnt it. When we were kids and some kid was using fighten words we would kick their butt or get our butt kicked. Now the law has to be involved in everything so makes sense you can now be prosecuted for fighten words.
Destroying individulism is priority one for the .gov. if i have a problem with the cops it is they have become the enforcement arm of these wanna be tyrrants and dictators. Shame really.

 

[hotbiggun]

The 25 foot rule is to put a restriction on actions. It's so the auditors, cashiers, arborists, cartographers, cytotechnologists, gemologists
herpetologists, industrial designers, horse jockeys, kinesiologists, meteorologists, nuclear engineers, orthodontists, phlebotomists, quarry managers, robotics technicians, sommeliers, taxidermists, urban planners, volcanologists, wildlife rehabilitators, zoologists, and pretty much every other occupation and even people who are unemployed don't interfere with the investigation.

Yeah but in reality its the auditors interfering.

 

[thperez1972]

Yeah but in reality its the auditors interfering.

Not the bakers, carpenters, dietitians, electricians, firefighters, graphic designers, hairdressers, illustrators, journalists, librarians, mechanics, nurses, optometrists, plumbers, quality control inspectors, radiologists, software developers, teachers, or veterinarians? Is it the tax laws that causes one occupation to have to have their own law?