I thought everyone on Bayou Shooter was expert instructors?
No, just expert shooters.
I thought everyone on Bayou Shooter was expert instructors?
How much will the class cost?
Not sensitive just insulted... For you to come in and undermine me without knowing who i am... Or more importantly where I've been. I know who you are, your an old dog. Might be time to retire to the porch. Let's not forget who started this, maybe you have some insecurities but you should take that weak minded **** elsewhere.
Assuming you just want to teach, there's no certification required. Your proficiency, or lack thereof, is immaterial.
I used this same approach when I began teaching brain surgery, and no one has ever questioned my credentials or expertise.
YAY! Now you two kiss... One thing is for sure. It takes a very patient and understanding listener to make a good teacher. I hate teaching due to the patience part.unnecessarry
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all i wanted was some information man you come off as arrogant and thats what set the tone for this conversation.
or maybe i should just get the sand out of my vag... either way how about a truce.
"senior members being jack asses" <- THIS
"High on your pedestals" <- AND THIS
I wouldn't be insulted, if I were you. He does that with everybody. While it rubs me the wrong way too, I at least understand its not personal. So far, you've had 4 highly qualified instructors (of which he is one) plus myself (I am a fairly new instructor) respond to you.
I would say your attitude is not conducive to a professional introduction, and these are both your competitors and peers. Your reputation with them Matters. It's not a good idea to start off your "career" by being unfriendly, no matter how much sarcasm Dawg23 throws at you.
As for your OP, you hang out a shingle with zero certificates or credentials and just say "hey! Trust me, I know what I'm about." all day, but no one will take your classes. You can get NRA certified for whatever you want to teach, and Still no one will take your classes, because you have no credibility. You can even get your NRA basic pistol instructor and LSP number and throw up some CHP courses on a website, and without some credibility, it won't matter. Here's an example:
I'm a CHP instructor and I'm qualified to teach the class. People always ask me, "we'll, that's cool, but what are your Other credentials and experiences?" If that's all I had going for me, I wouldn't get any students. The fact that I work great with young people and total novices who have No experience behind a handgun whatsoever wouldn't even matter.
I really doubt his question was directed towards the casual members here, but instead to instructors.If you have to come on to a gun forum and ask a bunch of casual enthusiasts how to become certified, then you're probably not qualified. And I wouldn't waste my money.
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all i wanted was some information man you come off as arrogant and thats what set the tone for this conversation.
or maybe i should just get the sand out of my vag... either way how about a truce.
I really doubt his question was directed towards the casual members here, but instead to instructors.
No, actually he doesn't. It only sounds that way if it applies to you.
My following comments are not necessarily directed at you RL, or anybody else, btw.
Straight up: I don't care if you're god's walking encyclopedia of gun information. If you have to come on to a gun forum and ask a bunch of casual enthusiasts how to become certified, then you're probably not qualified. And I wouldn't waste my money. Many of the guys who are here that ARE instructors, or COULD BE instructors have created friendships and long term relationships with well known national instructors. Personally I think they'd probably go ask somebody who has experience in it.
I have been through classes with both types of instructors. Some have minimal real world experience but lots of formal training and experience on the range. Some have decades of experience shooting real people but not much formal training. Both are useful to learn from. I favor someone with real experience and many years spent actually training students. Those guys can just look at you and figure out what's wrong with you before you even pull the trigger.
So knowing where to get certified determines ability? Hunh bruh's certificates keep getting funnier.
I don't have any friendships with well known national instructors, and I do ok. I don't think the barriers to entry are quite That high for your standard instructor. As long as you have some decent, verifiable credentials and experience to give you credibility, and the right personality, I think you meet the requirements to help people learn.
If you're trying to come off as some top tier tactical instructor, you'd better have btdt IMO. Same with hunting: if you're marketing yourself as the Great White Hunter trainer, I want to see some dangerous game in your trophy room.
If you are a regular CHP instructor, being prior service, a LEO, or a lawyer is fine, as long as you market yourself that way. Even a regular joe with None of those things can do ok as long as he's knowledgable. No "Good 'ol boy" network required.