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[M_Lee]

I did not state "US history tells a different story"
The US has not been around very long in the grand scheme of things. Governments betraying their people on the other hand, well that's as old as history itself.
Data collection / privacy invasion goes hand in hand with communism, I thought this was common knowledge.

Actually it goes hand in hand with more than just Communism. Hitler's fascist regime depended on it as do various dictatorships in world history. We in the US have supreme court rulings in regards to privacy invasion, search and seizure, wiretaps etc etc etc. Is it perfect? Nah, nothing is. One should never expect perfection anywhere, as one will be highly disappointed if they do.
My cellphone tracks me. My car GPS tracks me. Everywhere I go these days I'm on a security camera, including my own in the house lol. We all enjoy the benefits things like that provide.

 

[M_Lee]

Well, there was that George Orwell book, 1984, but that’ll never happen…
Oh wait…

Seriously though, to each his own. If you don’t value your privacy any more than that, you’ll fit right in soon enough. Anyone who doesn’t think that sooner than later the state will know all there is to know about them 24/7 is pretty naive at this point. If you haven’t guessed, there are no laws that actually prevent the police state from doing what it wants to do. Oh sure, there are laws that are meant to prevent such activity, but much like criminals ignore the law….
Here’s a scenario for you:
Horrendous murder is discovered. Detectives pull up cellular tracking data and the only ping the see within feet of the scene happens to belong to you. For whatever reason, right about the time they believe the murder occurred, you happened to be at the door of that home or doing something right near wherever the crime took place. Before you know it, you’re dragged into jail and questioned and have to retain an attorney and so on while you maybe miss work, fall under a mother lode of scrutiny from family, friends, boss and coworkers and suffer who knows what else. Even if you’re exonerated later, that’s a lot to go through and things like this have indeed happened. I bet I could search and find a plethora of examples where lack of privacy could or has led to untold harm to people. People who felt they had nothing to hide.

Yeah, sorry but there's more to a murder investigation then that Dr. Richard Kimble The Fugitive one you just described. I was waiting for you to throw in a one armed man into the scenario. I just don't have that vivid an imagination.

 

[GunRelated]

Actually it goes hand in hand with more than just Communism. Hitler's fascist regime depended on it as do various dictatorships in world history. We in the US have supreme court rulings in regards to privacy invasion, search and seizure, wiretaps etc etc etc. Is it perfect? Nah, nothing is. One should never expect perfection anywhere, as one will be highly disappointed if they do.
My cellphone tracks me. My car GPS tracks me. Everywhere I go these days I'm on a security camera, including my own in the house lol. We all enjoy the benefits things like that provide.

A lot of people tend to forget about their personal electronic trackers that they carry everywhere. I resisted smartphones for probably 5 years or so, sticking with little flip phones for this very reason. Obviously, I eventually caved and so did pretty much everyone else that was holding out. The smartphone, in it's current form, is pretty much the definition of 1984. Everything about us is tracked with our smartphone. It listens to us, it tracks our location, and it knows more about us than anyone else.
There are laws that should prevent entities from having access to the information in our smartphone, and yet they do it anyway without our permission.
I personally turn off all location, microphone, camera, and any other permissions that I can, while still having a functional device. I do not use any voice command services. I store nothing personal in the cloud except for contacts, I have lost many pictures over the years because of this. None of this matters though, it just makes me feel a little better and maybe it makes them jump through an additional hoop to get my information, but they can and they will still get what they want.
Having the mentality of, "I'm not breaking any laws, so I don't care about privacy", is not the way anyone that lives in a constitutional republic should have to feel. Maybe it doesn't change anything, but the change we speak of is not something that happens overnight. This kind of change happens over generations. Imagine if 100 years ago, you told the average US citizen that they will eventually carry around a device that will track their every move and even a lot of their thoughts and private conversations; they would call you a liar and go on to tell you that there are laws in place to prevent that.

 

[MOTOR51]

A lot of people tend to forget about their personal electronic trackers that they carry everywhere. I resisted smartphones for probably 5 years or so, sticking with little flip phones for this very reason. Obviously, I eventually caved and so did pretty much everyone else that was holding out. The smartphone, in it's current form, is pretty much the definition of 1984. Everything about us is tracked with our smartphone. It listens to us, it tracks our location, and it knows more about us than anyone else.
There are laws that should prevent entities from having access to the information in our smartphone, and yet they do it anyway without our permission.
I personally turn off all location, microphone, camera, and any other permissions that I can, while still having a functional device. I do not use any voice command services. I store nothing personal in the cloud except for contacts, I have lost many pictures over the years because of this. None of this matters though, it just makes me feel a little better and maybe it makes them jump through an additional hoop to get my information, but they can and they will still get what they want.
Having the mentality of, "I'm not breaking any laws, so I don't care about privacy", is not the way anyone that lives in a constitutional republic should have to feel. Maybe it doesn't change anything, but the change we speak of is not something that happens overnight. This kind of change happens over generations. Imagine if 100 years ago, you told the average US citizen that they will eventually carry around a device that will track their every move and even a lot of their thoughts and private conversations; they would call you a liar and go on to tell you that there are laws in place to prevent that.

If you could ever see a “cellphone dump” after getting a warrant, you wouldn’t even waste your time trying to turn stuff off.


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[MOTOR51]

Yeah, sorry but there's more to a murder investigation then that Dr. Richard Kimble The Fugitive one you just described. I was waiting for you to throw in a one armed man into the scenario. I just don't have that vivid an imagination.

Come on man, quit ruining it for me.


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[GunRelated]

If you could ever see a “cellphone dump” after getting a warrant, you wouldn’t even waste your time trying to turn stuff off.


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I know it doesn't matter. I still do it.

 

[Magdump]

Yeah, sorry but there's more to a murder investigation then that Dr. Richard Kimble The Fugitive one you just described. I was waiting for you to throw in a one armed man into the scenario. I just don't have that vivid an imagination.

Hey, I’m just saying, if you think there’s never any harm in people invading your privacy then you should be blissful. Everyone has a different version of protecting themselves and their rights. I have nothing incriminating to hide, but there’s plenty of info I’d rather not share with anyone not of my choosing for plenty of good reasons and I won’t accept finger pointing simply because I’m protecting my privacy.

 

[TickleChain]

If you could ever see a “cellphone dump” after getting a warrant, you wouldn’t even waste your time trying to turn stuff off.


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What do you mean?

I've been through a LOT with being hit by "cyber criminals" and I take many precautions to try to overcome that problem.

One of those efforts is using Express VPN ($100/year). I never store passwords on devices, etc.

I recently bought a new Macbook for producing music and videos ($3600) and any information I can get may help me protect myself in Our electronic world.

Might you expound upon your "cellphone dump" mention?

 

[MOTOR51]

What do you mean?

I've been through a LOT with being hit by "cyber criminals" and I take many precautions to try to overcome that problem.

One of those efforts is using Express VPN ($100/year). I never store passwords on devices, etc.

I recently bought a new Macbook for producing music and videos ($3600) and any information I can get may help me protect myself in Our electronic world.

Might you expound upon your "cellphone dump" mention?

I’m not going to get detailed about the info gathered, but your phone is a treasure trove of info no matter what steps you think you are taking.


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[TickleChain]

comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/wipe-android-phone-before-selling/

for Android

https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/wipe-android-phone-before-selling/

 

[TickleChain]

support.apple.com/guide/iphone/erase-iphone-iph7a2a9399b/ios

for iPhone

https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/erase-iphone-iph7a2a9399b/ios

 

[TickleChain]

I’m not going to get detailed about the info gathered, but your phone is a treasure trove of info no matter what steps you think you are taking.


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Many Thanks, Boss Man Motor.
Every little bit *can potentially help Us* protect Ourselves in an electronic world that hackers/cyber criminals use against Us.

***statement removed to avoid misconstruance***

(*Edited for correctness*)

 

[GunRelated]

comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/wipe-android-phone-before-selling/

for Android

https://www.comparitech.com/blog/vpn-privacy/wipe-android-phone-before-selling/

There are much more effective and entertaining methods. Typical wipes will not erase everything. I personally would never sell any of my devices. I use them until I've got my money's worth out of them, then discard them safely.

 

[thperez1972]

Many Thanks, Boss Man Motor.
Every little bit *can potentially help Us* protect Ourselves in an electronic world that hackers/cyber criminals use against Us.

***statement removed to avoid misconstruance***

(*Edited for correctness*)

The best way to protect yourself is not to avoid the technology but to embrace it. Get a phone with the best encryption possible. Make it as hard as possible to get to the information. Motor is not kidding about it being a treasure trove of information.

 

[JBP55]

I do not have anything on my new phone. The people that normally work on phones for a living told me my old phone and my new phone are different and they cannot transfer my contacts to my new phone. A friend transferred all my contacts to a cloud but I cannot figure out how to transfer them from the cloud to my new phone. I told him I did not know which cloud they were in and I will compensate him to transfer from the cloud to my new phone as soon as he is available.

 

[TickleChain]

There are much more effective and entertaining methods. Typical wipes will not erase everything. I personally would never sell any of my devices. I use them until I've got my money's worth out of them, then discard them safely.

A new phone needs to happen soon. Pondering an iPhone 13 Pro Max unless there are more-secure options.

Although not the whole story, security is paramount.

 

[TickleChain]

The best way to protect yourself is not to avoid the technology but to embrace it. Get a phone with the best encryption possible. Make it as hard as possible to get to the information. Motor is not kidding about it being a treasure trove of information.

What would You suggest?

 

[AustinBR]

A new phone needs to happen soon. Pondering an iPhone 13 Pro Max unless there are more-secure options.

Although not the whole story, security is paramount.

There are always more secure options than anything standard.

Check out this company:

KryptAll's® K iPhone Secure Cellular Communications

KryptAll® has designed a patent-pending solution to address the need for secure communications, from a firmware modified encrypted and secure cell phone to other KryptAll® encrypted phones or any non-encrypted phones such as VoIP, cellular, or standard. KryptAll® guarantees the privacy of the...

www.kryptall.com

For the average Joe who doesn't commit crimes on the reg, just continuing to practice safe interneting is probably the best bet.

Using a VPN is probably not necessary for most people in most places.

The biggest and most important thing is using actual secure passwords and not the same email address for everything.

 

[TickleChain]

There are always more secure options than anything standard.

Check out this company:

KryptAll's® K iPhone Secure Cellular Communications

KryptAll® has designed a patent-pending solution to address the need for secure communications, from a firmware modified encrypted and secure cell phone to other KryptAll® encrypted phones or any non-encrypted phones such as VoIP, cellular, or standard. KryptAll® guarantees the privacy of the...

www.kryptall.com

For the average Joe who doesn't commit crimes on the reg, just continuing to practice safe interneting is probably the best bet.

Using a VPN is probably not necessary for most people in most places.

The biggest and most important thing is using actual secure passwords and not the same email address for everything.

Many Thanks, Austin!
I have that bookmarked and will definitely check them out when time permits on my next shift (starting at midnight).

Crime has no place in my life.

 

[TickleChain]

Last one before I crash.

I think it deserves mention, reminder, due to these recent posts on this thread.

Let Us not quickly forget about the Solar Winds hack.
That's major chit.