Right to bear arms at heart of high court case

[JadeRaven]

We may have "won," but how well we have "won" is yet to be determined.

 

[LACamper]

We could have gone further. I think they could have repealed the machine gun ban with this SC!
But its good... Of course we're about to have Obama as president... in two years we'll all be praying 5 times a day to the East...

 

[JadeRaven]

I would love to see that ban repealed. I think I would immediately go get a loan and spend a few grand on some nice stuff.

 

[LACamper]

I don't know about that. I read the transcripts. They were going along with 'weapons in common usage'. AR's w/ 3 shot burst settings are what is in common usage by the military and the national guard.
What concerns me about that is if a sitting president as commander in chief decides the US military isn't going to use handguns anymore. They could all switch for full auto personal defense weapons. Then handguns are not going to be considered 'in common usage by the military'. This SC wouldn't let that happen, but who knows what the SC will look like in 10 to 20 years.

 

[CEHollier]

My personal opinion is there will always be a need for side arms in the military and they will be common weapons in usage. ie Rangers, Seals, pilots.

 

[tunatuk]

We haven't won yet fellas. Just because this is what they are saying now, does not necessarily mean that this is what will be written in the decisions. We won't know the true outcome or scope of this case until a few months from now.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic, but realistic. We still have a ways to go ahead of us.

 

[Jon]

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/16799246.html

 

[Nick]

We haven't won yet fellas. Just because this is what they are saying now, does not necessarily mean that this is what will be written in the decisions. We won't know the true outcome or scope of this case until a few months from now.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic, but realistic. We still have a ways to go ahead of us.

exactly... I'm debating if I should go buy an AR tomorrow or wait and possibly get a real M4.... it could seriously swing either way that far.

 

[nikolai]

I'm I correct in understanding that the ruling is expected tomorrow?

 

[artabr]

I'm I correct in understanding that the ruling is expected tomorrow?

Yes, Fox News anounced this morning that the court would release its opinion tomorrow morning. We should know something by 10 AM, if not before.



Art

 

[swamper]

www.scotusblog.com will be live blogging the result and have a link to the opinions when they are available. The live blogging will start at 10 am eastern (9 am our time).

 

[artabr]

I just ran across this.
Read the 4th paragraph (ASIDE). One can only hope.

http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2008/06/so_lets_say_jus.html#more

 

[artabr]

bump

 

[dzelenka]

The way the Court is aligned you have 4 conservative justices and 4 liberal justices and Kennedy in the middle, floating between the two. we will likely get a plurality decision that finds the 2nd is an individual right subject to "reasonable" restrictions. Both sides will claim victory. We will have to continue to fight at every turn.

Today Kennedy sided with the liberals to strike down the LA law providing for the death penalty for child rapists. That is who all of our hopes are riding with. I am not feeling too confident that we will have a real clear ut victory and I am bracing myself for the very real possiblity that he will vote with the liberals and screw our pooch completely.

we shall see tomorrow.

Dan

 

[JadeRaven]

My throat and chest tightens up every time I think about it. I heard the verdict on the rape case today on the radio and all I could think about is "when's the dc ban case going to be announced?!?!"

So many people feel so confident about it, but I just don't know. "Both sides will claim victory" is probably right, and I really hope this is a landmark pro-gun decision, but I somehow don't think it will be.

 

[artabr]

The only thing that gives me hope is that Justice Kennedy sounded extremely pro gun in the opening arguments of the case. He will be the swing vote. I just pray that he doesn't flip on us.


Art

 

[nikolai]

www.scotusblog.com will be live blogging the result and have a link to the opinions when they are available. The live blogging will start at 10 am eastern (9 am our time).

Bump.

 

[spanky]

Tom Goldstein - Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm.

 

[swagge1]

10:13 Ben Winograd -
The Court has released the opinion in District of Columbia v. Heller (07-290), on whether the District’s firearms regulations – which bar the possession of handguns and require shotguns and rifles to be kept disassembled or under trigger lock – violate the Second Amendment. The ruling below, which struck down the provisions in question, is affirmed.



Justice Scalia wrote the opinion. Justice Breyer dissented, joined by Justices Stevens, Souter and Ginsburg. We will provide a link to the decision as soon as it is available.

 

[spanky]

Answering a 127-year old constitutional question, the Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to have a gun, at least in one’s home. The Court, splitting 5-4, struck down a District of Columbia ban on handguns.\