USSS shoots at car burglars.

[Manimal]

There's a lot to unpack here...but, the TLDR facts are that in Louisiana you cannot shoot someone for breaking into an empty car, shed, four-wheeler, or whatever that you have sitting on your property outside of your house.

...Without reasonable fear of great bodily harm or death.

If someone's breaking into a car that I know has a gun in it I'm probably going to stop them by any means necessary, so they cant hurt me or anyone with it.

I'm speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if a USSS vehicle had at least a couple of guns in it.

 

[MOTOR51]

...Without reasonable fear of great bodily harm or death.

If someone's breaking into a car that I know has a gun in it I'm probably going to stop them by any means necessary, so they cant hurt me or anyone with it.

I'm speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if a USSS vehicle had at least a couple of guns in it.

That better not be how you word your statement are you will go to prison.

 

[AustinBR]

...Without reasonable fear of great bodily harm or death.

If someone's breaking into a car that I know has a gun in it I'm probably going to stop them by any means necessary, so they cant hurt me or anyone with it.

I'm speculating here, but I wouldn't be surprised if a USSS vehicle had at least a couple of guns in it.

I think that is a very, very poor argument.

A vehicle is not a safe. A parked, unoccupied vehicle should not contain firearms.

If someone is breaking into your vehicle while you're at home, you are going to have a very hard time justifying that you knowingly went outside to confront them vs going back inside and locking the door + calling 911.

An excuse of "oops, I left a gun in the car" that I didn't want the person to get, so I shot him, is going to be an uphill battle. Maybe if the firearm was (negligently) left in plain view in the car and you had a reasonable belief that the thief was going towards the firearm with the intent to harm you, but that's a very strong maybe.

Also, just to be clear: A vehicle is not a safe. Don't leave firearms in cars. Ever. At all. Period.

Yesterday someone posted in the r/CCW page that their vehicle was broken into and someone broke into the console safe that they have and stole their gun. My thought was, "no ****, thieves know people have console safes now and they're not very difficult to break into."

 

[Bigchillin83]

I think that is a very, very poor argument.

A vehicle is not a safe. A parked, unoccupied vehicle should not contain firearms.

If someone is breaking into your vehicle while you're at home, you are going to have a very hard time justifying that you knowingly went outside to confront them vs going back inside and locking the door + calling 911.

An excuse of "oops, I left a gun in the car" that I didn't want the person to get, so I shot him, is going to be an uphill battle. Maybe if the firearm was (negligently) left in plain view in the car and you had a reasonable belief that the thief was going towards the firearm with the intent to harm you, but that's a very strong maybe.

Also, just to be clear: A vehicle is not a safe. Don't leave firearms in cars. Ever. At all. Period.

Yesterday someone posted in the r/CCW page that their vehicle was broken into and someone broke into the console safe that they have and stole their gun. My thought was, "no ****, thieves know people have console safes now and they're not very difficult to break into."

What I was getting at with the ss car.. but I guess there’s a clause that if stupid government officials store guns in there car they can use deadly force for a car breakin… that law doesn’t apply to us as normal citizens lol

 

[AustinBR]

What I was getting at with the ss car.. but I guess there’s a clause that if stupid government officials store guns in there car they can use deadly force for a car breakin… that law doesn’t apply to us as normal citizens lol

Eh, I'm going to speculate based on the facts that have been presented thus far that it was probably not an acceptable use of force.

Had one of the bad guys (or anyone else) been hit with a bullet, it's possible that the story would be a little different.

My guess is that the USSS guys will probably get a scolding for their discharge of firearms, but who knows

 

[MOTOR51]

What I was getting at with the ss car.. but I guess there’s a clause that if stupid government officials store guns in there car they can use deadly force for a car breakin… that law doesn’t apply to us as normal citizens lol

Police have guns in their cars all the time, that’s why you don’t see them walking around all day with a rifle or shotgun. Police also have a duty to stop a crime that they are witness to, civilians do not. In any instance, you still have to be able to articulate why you shot someone.

 

[AustinBR]

Eh, I'm going to speculate based on the facts that have been presented thus far that it was probably not an acceptable use of force.

Had one of the bad guys (or anyone else) been hit with a bullet, it's possible that the story would be a little different.

My guess is that the USSS guys will probably get a scolding for their discharge of firearms, but who knows

All of that being said, it's quite likely that there is more to the story that just wasn't released. Breaking into a USSS vehicle is stupid. If one of the guys reached into a waistband, bag, or presented something that appeared to be a firearm, the entire situation changes and the USSS can absolutely light them up (as they should).

 

[AustinBR]

Police have guns in their cars all the time, that’s why you don’t see them walking around all day with a rifle or shotgun. Police also have a duty to stop a crime that they are witness to, civilians do not. In any instance, you still have to be able to articulate why you shot someone.

But do you leave your rifle/shotgun in your car overnight...? LOL

 

[Bigchillin83]

If I had to guess Joe Biden’s granddaughter was probably peddling dope for her daddy and they came by for a pick up and she forgot to tell her detail lol was supposed to be a drop and grab deal, but it looked like they were stealing her dope, so they had to protect it

 

[T-boy]

If I had to guess Joe Biden’s granddaughter was probably peddling dope for her daddy and they came by for a pick up and she forgot to tell her detail lol was supposed to be a drop and grab deal, but it looked like they were stealing her dope, so they had to protect it

HA!

But that does make me wonder if the stripper's daughter in Arkansas has a security detail as well?

 

[AustinBR]

HA!

But that does make me wonder if the stripper's daughter in Arkansas has a security detail as well?

I would assume so.

 

[charlie12]

You might want to consult an attorney and let him explain to you when you can actually shoot someone. It’s not an automatic lawful shooting.

I was hoping someone would help Danny Ross with his post.

 

[charlie12]

We probably won't hear anymore answers about the USSS firing at them. Just like no more about the coke found in the WH

 

[V.Taltos]

There's a lot to unpack here...but, the TLDR facts are that in Louisiana you cannot shoot someone for breaking into an empty car, shed, four-wheeler, or whatever that you have sitting on your property outside of your house.

unless they are armed and shooting at you..

 

[AustinBR]

unless they are armed and shooting at you..

But then you are using your firearm because they are shooting at you....not because they are breaking into your car or trying to steal your stuff...

 

[V.Taltos]

We probably won't hear anymore answers about the USSS firing at them. Just like no more about the coke found in the WH

Ohhh, that coke. That coke was being used in a bust that never occurred, Hunter just happened to snort half of it but we, DC Metro, had eyes on it occasionally.

 

[MOTOR51]

But then you are using your firearm because they are shooting at you....not because they are breaking into your car or trying to steal your stuff...

 

[snake doctor]

Bush's daughters had Secret Service protection as adults. Bush signed a directive before he left office to extend their protection beyond the normal period. I have seen Jenna Bush Hager on Tulane's campus twice, and she definitely had security guards but I don't know if they were federal or private.

 

[IlivnDaBoot!]

This LITERALLY happened to a guy in Tennessee. The sheriff department arrested a guy for shooting at 3 perpetrators breaking into his van that was parked in his driveway. They fired on the home owner first and he returned fire. He was arrested because he told law enforcement that as he retreated into his home, he closed his eyes as he fired back at the perpetrators. He was then arrested for reckless endangerment for closing his eyes as he fired. True story

 

[Gator 45/70]

USSS are the American version of James Bond secret agent 007.
They too have a license to kill.
Besides they could also be guarding Hunters laptop or Epstein's client lists in the van.