There are formal militias in several states that are neither the National Guard nor associated with the Federal Govt. A Virginian friend is a member and he pushed me to join. I wasn't interested and it turns out Louisiana doesn't have one. From what he says, the militia has organized rank, is unpaid, and you supply your uniforms.
I'm sure he would be willing to answer questions about it. Contact me b/c.
If you are referring to the La State Guard, you are incorrect. The LASG does exist and consists of both volunteers (like I was) and paid State employees who hold jobs at military facilities such as Jackson Barricks in New Orleans and Gillis Long right here in St Gabriel. See my post earlier in this thread (post #15).
Don't flatter yourselves; nobody cares that much.
What you guys cannot seem to grasp is that most of the folks here AGREE with you about all of this stuff. I dunno who this Huartree (sp?) people/deal is, but I'm with you on most of the rest that you mentioned. I also know better than to believe that McVeigh acted alone (or that an ANFO bomb took a surgical semi-circle out of a steel-reinforced concrete building without destroying the surrounding structures), or that Pan AM 800 was brought down by a defective fuel tank, etc., etc.
The difference is, I/we don't brood about same endlessly on a public forum, decrying The Founders as shamed, etc. We know that, except for exercising our sovereign franchise at the polls, there is NOTHING we can do to alter the distasteful changes we see occurring, for now, anyway; except wait, watch, and be wary.
And then there is the patriotic mantra you'll (figuratively speaking, of course) spew next; words to the effect that we're sheep too, laying down with lions, etc, ad nauseum.
Okay, tell me what YOU would do??? To "stand up and be counted", as it were. WHAT? Go kill a legislator or a federal judge? Or some other form of open rebellion? See Tucson, and the budding aftermath of that. Every one of these "patriots", or group, hammers another nail into our coffin of gun rights.
BTW, I don't think you can compare the Branch Davidians with the Montana Freemen. The latter were of the same ilk as Gordon Kahl (IOW, they asked for what they got), while Waco was a simple attempt at grandstanding by the ATF that saw their ass handed to them. Those people were immolated by a vengeful government agency who was tired of being embarrassed by them. The fact that no one really had to answer for that atrocity was a harbinger; how long could YOU stand up to a main battle tank and fuel-air explosives?????
But regardless, every related incident strengthens the government's case that there ARE "fringe wackos" out there who need to be suppressed. And the government WILL suppress whatever it feels is a threat to it.
Yes, a majority of Americans are not aware of all of this. We have indeed grown soft, etc. But not HERE. Give your fellow forumites some credit, for Pete's sake.
And as for "getting in yo business", well, its an internet forum. Get over it. That individual made a uber-retarded statement, and _I_ felt the need to respond with a question.
BTW, what's the answer? Blue? Orange? What?
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Good God.
What color are the trees in your world?????
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I was hoping that was some kind of rhetorical question .
Apparently not.
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Don't flatter yourselves; nobody cares that much.
What you guys cannot seem to grasp is that most of the folks here AGREE with you about all of this stuff. I dunno who this Huartree (sp?) people/deal is, but I'm with you on most of the rest that you mentioned. I also know better than to believe that McVeigh acted alone (or that an ANFO bomb took a surgical semi-circle out of a steel-reinforced concrete building without destroying the surrounding structures), or that Pan AM 800 was brought down by a defective fuel tank, etc., etc.
The difference is, I/we don't brood about same endlessly on a public forum, decrying The Founders as shamed, etc. We know that, except for exercising our sovereign franchise at the polls, there is NOTHING we can do to alter the distasteful changes we see occurring, for now, anyway; except wait, watch, and be wary.
And then there is the patriotic mantra you'll (figuratively speaking, of course) spew next; words to the effect that we're sheep too, laying down with lions, etc, ad nauseum.
Okay, tell me what YOU would do??? To "stand up and be counted", as it were. WHAT? Go kill a legislator or a federal judge? Or some other form of open rebellion? See Tucson, and the budding aftermath of that. Every one of these "patriots", or group, hammers another nail into our coffin of gun rights.
BTW, I don't think you can compare the Branch Davidians with the Montana Freemen. The latter were of the same ilk as Gordon Kahl (IOW, they asked for what they got), while Waco was a simple attempt at grandstanding by the ATF that saw their ass handed to them. Those people were immolated by a vengeful government agency who was tired of being embarassed by them. The fact that no one really had to answer for that atrocity was a harbinger; how long could YOU stand up to a main battle tank and fuel-air explosives?????
But regardless, every related incident strengthens the government's case that there ARE "fringe whackos" out there who need to be suppressed. And the government WILL suppress whatever it feels is a threat to it.
Yes, a majority of Americans are not aware of all of this. We have indeed grown soft, etc. But not HERE. Give your fellow forumites some credit, for Pete's sake.
And as for "getting in yo business", well, its an internet forum. Get over it. That individual made a uber-retarded statement, and _I_ felt the need to respond with a question.
BTW, what's the answer? Blue? Orange? What?
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Why are we as gun owners under a microscope?
(In that question I will assume that the "gun owners" you refer to are law abiding citizens.)
Not really sure how as an American one could refer to our founders as terrorists but that is a different story all together.
http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50226
First off I would like to say that the previous thread from which I take these quotes has been deleted. This is not a good thing.
Actually, I want to know how you figure that thread was deleted and if it had been how it's really such a bad thing??
You're too caught up in your own miasma. (example of condescension)The rhetorical question Dan was referring to was an extension of the statement you made (and I mocked) regarding why are gun owners are under a microscope.
We ARE in a bad way. A combination of slipping mores and inappropriate methods of dealing with same is slowly but surely spiralling our society into the toilet.
But if you need it explained to you WHY "gun owners are under a microscope" today, then you are really dense.
actual quote: Why are we as gun owners under a microscope?
(In that question I will assume that the "gun owners" you refer to are law abiding citizens.)
And I don't think you are; now. I think you are trying to stir ****, discussion, whatever. But perhaps _I_ am the dense one. I fail to see how your impassioned public speaking is going to alter anything significant.
Here's a clue... most normal folks share part, or all, of your beliefs. Me too. They/I don't need any speeches by you (or anyone else) to be convinced.
Still, the things need to be said, you're right about that... if for no other reason, so the opposition knows we are not totally asleep at the switch.
So orate on...
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Goodness. Took you this long to come up with all of that?
My "standing" in society? You gotta be kidding. I'm nobody; just another citizen, retired. So you're "class conscious" as well?????
You're right, of course. It was TOTALLY crass, rude, and insensitive of me to make those remarks.
Sometimes the truth hurts...
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