Arrested by the Philadelphia PD for OC

[dzelenka]

Regardless of the guys intention, the cops handled this VERY poorly in my opinion.

No doubt. The cops' handling of the situation, especially the continued cursing after he knew that the guy had a CHP and was recording the encounter, wins all involved a retard award. At some point you probably should get a clue that you may be in the wrong. Perhaps you may want to look up the directive that the guy is citing? It is not until the end when he is returning the guys gun and giving him the information on how to file a complaint that he acts civil.

While not surprising, I am disappointed with the lack of knowledge of basic firearms law.

I like the charges. You never know what will happen in court so I won't make a prediction on whether he walks or not, but from what I heard, the only person recklessly endangering anyone was the LEO. The guy should have complied instead of questioning the officer out of a sense of self preservation. It could have ended badly for the citizen.

Alls well that ends well. Maybe he will get a new motorcycle out of it.

 

[sraacke]

Dan, thanks for the input. Your PM box is full but I wanted your insight on a couple of other threads.
Join us in a couple of discussions.
Open Carry in a GFSZ with a CHP in this thread, discussion sarts about post 54- http://www.bayoushooter.com/forums/showthread.php?58385-OC-laws-in-ebr/page3
and premption discussion at the LOCAL forum - http://www.laopencarry.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=830

 

[SirIsaacNewton]

This is entertaining.... In respect to the cursing this is Philadelphia.

 

[diat150]

is it legal to not give the officer your id in louisiana? just wondering after watching a few of these types of videos.

 

[troy_mclure]

i also carry a tiny voice recorder any time i OC. its about the size of my thumb and the battery lasts 40 hours.

 

[eman2k5]

is it legal to not give the officer your id in louisiana? just wondering after watching a few of these types of videos.

Yes its resisting.

§108 B(1) (C). Resisting an officer
(c) Refusal by the arrested or detained party to give his name and make his identity known to the arresting or detaining officer or providing false information regarding the identity of such party to the officer.

 

[goteron]

I think you guys have it all wrong, they were just giving him a hard time because he was carrying in a SERPA.

 

[Hitman]

is it legal to not give the officer your id in louisiana? just wondering after watching a few of these types of videos.

Yes its resisting.

§108 B(1) (C). Resisting an officer
(c) Refusal by the arrested or detained party to give his name and make his identity known to the arresting or detaining officer or providing false information regarding the identity of such party to the officer.

Whoa, Not Exactly Sir.

§108 B(1) (C). Resisting an officer
(c) Refusal by the arrested or detained party to give his name and make his identity known to the arresting or detaining officer or providing false information regarding the identity of such party to the officer.

Key wording;
1: Arrested or Detained (Past tense)
2: Make identity known doesn't exactly mean show Drivers License.


I'll assume that diat150 was referring to Driver's License ID. In that case if you are driving and you are encountered by LE and they request your Drivers License then YES you must provide ID. Passenger not required to show DL card but must identify themselves if requested.

However there is no Law that declares Citizens to carry any sort of identification card while walking their dog(Example) or riding in a car.

However during ANY LE encounter, you must at a minimum identify yourself if requested. This doesn't mean with any sort of State issued ID card, it just means you must at least give your name.(And possible DOB)

 

[eman2k5]

Why would a officer take someones word on who they are ? Sorry valid state ID is what I will belive over word of mouth.

 

[spanky]

Serious question; what if they don't have one? Either not issued or not on their person.

 

[Hitman]

Why would a officer take someones word on who they are ? Sorry valid state ID is what I will belive over word of mouth.

Brother, you might better clarify this with your superiors/peers before you falsely arrest someone for not giving you a State ID which might cost your department a Motorcycle.

Seriously though.

 

[Hitman]

Serious question; what if they don't have one? Either not issued or not on their person.

Well that's the point, no one is required to carry a State ID.

 

[eman2k5]

AFIS

 

[Hitman]

AFIS

"Assuming you could not get a field AFIS unit, how would you get him to a machine without arresting him? if you did arrest him, what would be the charge?"

Either way what law is it that you are basing your perception of civilians having to have an ID on their person?

 

[eman2k5]

or try thinkstream

 

[Hitman]

 

[Mac204]

Hitman, ya hadn't heard? Everyone arrested is always carrying state issued photo ID...

 

[K9CopSGT]

Thinkstream is installed in some agencies laptops and we can run names, when it comes up, it shows a picture so you can (usually) verify that is who you are talking to.

 

[Hitman]

Thinkstream is installed in some agencies laptops and we can run names, when it comes up, it shows a picture so you can (usually) verify that is who you are talking to.

Gotcha. Well I'm certain we know why that was developed

 

[Hitman]

Another identification situation but a little different being the camera-man is a mere bystander with a camera.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pNPVEOPVgQ[/ame]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BwQQSo9YX4[/ame]