Doc added***FL permits no longer honored in LA....it's official.

[spanky]

Brannon, maybe you should remove or reword #4.

I'm sure Clay would love it if you could prevent any calls because of misinformation.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

I'm not sure about that. Notice #4 in the original post:

4. FL permits are no longer valid.

Nolacop - Does this (#4) mean ALL Florida permits? Item #1 specifically addresses FL non-resident permits, leaving me to wonder if #4 applies to resident permits as well.

ONLY NON-RESIDENT.

post corrected.

sorry

 

[spanky]

Now we've gone from misinformation to redundant.

How about make #4 "Florida resident permits are still valid." to clarify further between resident and non-resident.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Brannon, maybe you should remove or reword #4.

I'm sure Clay would love it if you could prevent any calls because of misinformation.

smartass.....

 

[ryan]

Now let me start by saying I have permits in all 3 states, la ut and fl. I personally learned a lot more in my hunters safety then I did at my ccw class at the shooters club in metairie. My la ccw class was crap. We watched a video and talked about basic gun safety and spend 30 mins on laws. Personally I think it is about the money and the state is using the lax fl laws to get this passed. This state is so corrupt its unbelievable.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

WTF is so hard to understand.

NON-resident bad


Resident still OK.



Geeezzzz.

 

[spanky]

smartass.....

 

[spanky]

Now let me start by saying I have permits in all 3 states, la ut and fl. I personally learned a lot more in my hunters safety then I did at my ccw class at the shooters club in metairie. My la ccw class was crap. We watched a video and talked about basic gun safety and spend 30 mins on laws. Personally I think it is about the money and the state is using the lax fl laws to get this passed. This state is so corrupt its unbelievable.

I truly believe that it has nothing to do with money.

Also, it's not the state's fault that your CHP class was crap.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Now let me start by saying I have permits in all 3 states, la ut and fl. I personally learned a lot more in my hunters safety then I did at my ccw class at the shooters club in metairie. My la ccw class was crap. We watched a video and talked about basic gun safety and spend 30 mins on laws. Personally I think it is about the money and the state is using the lax fl laws to get this passed. This state is so corrupt its unbelievable.

If that is the case, you were robbed. You should report them to the state. You were supposed to get 3 hours of laws.

That is why we have so many issues with instructors.

Come sit in on my next class for free to see what you missed.


i can understand your frustration, but seeing the system from the inside, you are dead wrong. What money do they make off of 100.00 when you factor in salaries, insurance, paper, office supplies, overtime, building expenses, training, etc.

if it was about the money, they would need to charge a lot more and would not run out of supplies. That would be bad business.

 

[Pacioli]

I personally learned a lot more in my hunters safety then I did at my ccw class at the shooters club in metairie. My la ccw class was crap. We watched a video and talked about basic gun safety and spend 30 mins on laws. Personally I think it is about the money and the state is using the lax fl laws to get this passed. This state is so corrupt its unbelievable.

Your experience with the CCW class tells me you went to the wrong class. Mine was 8 solid hours and we spent indepth time on every aspect of carry...gun nomenclature, cleaning, laws, safety, psychology, post shoot chain of events, and more. I thought the class was so good that I've encouraged everyone I know to take it, even if they don't own a gun!

I won't argue the corruption point, but I don't think there is a straight line from this topic to that conclusion.

No offense to anyone, but if the FL standard was that lax, and there are such good training classes available in LA, why would anyone not want the LA permit. Better training is always a good thing, right? Would you really want to be a shoot defendant with a permit whose prime attraction was less training? I know I wouldn't want to be your attorney!

 

[flamatrix99]

I am surprised, I didn't realize how many people had Fl non-resident permits.

 

[crewdawg]

Well my boss originally recomended that I get a Florida non-resident permit because it was cheaper in the long run. I'm glad that I got the Louisiana Permit instead. Just imagine the people who recently sent off for a Florida permit who basically threw that money away.

 

[Nolacopusmc]

Your experience with the CCW class tells me you went to the wrong class. Mine was 8 solid hours and we spent indepth time on every aspect of carry...gun nomenclature, cleaning, laws, safety, psychology, post shoot chain of events, and more. I thought the class was so good that I've encouraged everyone I know to take it, even if they don't own a gun!

I won't argue the corruption point, but I don't think there is a straight line from this topic to that conclusion.

No offense to anyone, but if the FL standard was that lax, and there are such good training classes available in LA, why would anyone not want the LA permit. Better training is always a good thing, right? Would you really want to be a shoot defendant with a permit whose prime attraction was less training? I know I wouldn't want to be your attorney!

Good point

 

[gbundersea]

Personally I think it is about the money and the state is using the lax fl laws to get this passed.

+1

Again, if it were truly the (lack of) training required by FL, they'd disallow all FL permits. Using Louisiana's logic, (poorly trained) Florida residents can safely conceal a firearm in our state, but Louisiana residents who took that same (poor) training cannot.

I guess Louisiana has decided that Florida residents are genetically superior, or naturally smarter, or whatever.

BTW, my CC class was superb, as all of them should be. Many many hours of instruction, and we shot well over and above the required course of fire, including a preliminary practice round in which the instructor helped students correct any problems. After that, when it came time for the actual qualifying round, we were on our own.

 

[SeventhSon]

I am surprised, I didn't realize how many people had Fl non-resident permits.

A lot of people got them because, back in the day, Florida had reciprocity with MS and AL while LA did not. That's why I got it. It had nothing to do with training because I was just out of the military and EITHER accepted my DD-214. I went with FL because I was in the process of adopting my (now) daughter from Florida and spent A LOT of time driving through MS and AL two and three times a month for almost a year. My permit is about to expire anyway, and now that LA was reciprocity, I was going to get a LA permit anyway, so no skin off my teeth.

 

[Jimmy Dean]

just called up a buddy with his FL non res, he isn't happy. He is calling up Curtis Hawkins, local PD officer and CHP instructor.

 

[gbundersea]

A lot of people got them because, back in the day, Florida had reciprocity with MS and AL while LA did not. That's why I got it.

Same here.

I did renew my Florida permit, because at $107 for a SEVEN year permit, it was too good a deal to pass up.

I'm now getting the LA permit though too, of course.

 

[geauxshootin]

I have two classes in Baton Rouge this weekend with some open slots. I am available during the week as well if a small group can be set up.
http://www.shooterstraining.com look at the training page for location dates and times.

send me any questions you may have

 

[ryan]

Is the fl resident training different than the non res training? If not, why don't they not allow any fl permits?

From what it sounds like I really got screwed on my class.

Nolacop I might take you up on sitting in on a class some weekend I'm not busy. I would like to see what a decent class is like.

 

[SeventhSon]

So my questions is........

Who's going to open carry now?