flamatrix99
Well-Known Member
If it potentially saves my wife or kids then I don't give a **** about your rights...
DWI checkpoints
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If it potentially saves my wife or kids then I don't give a **** about your rights...
Nolacopusmc
*Banned*
Guate_shooter
LA CHP Instructor # 522
Im all for them eventhough I've never been through one, I live WAY out of the city limits and when I do go to Lafayette at night I dont usually take the main roads since they are always backed up with traffic.
No, it's not for the children. It's to try to stem the average of over 400 alcohol related deaths in Lousiana every year from '82- '08. I'm willing to sacrafice some of my "rights" if it helps get one drunk ******* off the road.
Nolacopusmc
*Banned*
By that logic, the solution to illegal drug usage, is to go door to door, without a warrant, enter domicile, and inspect that no drugs are inside.
But it will be ok because they will warn you before hand, though indirectly, and obscurely.
Nolacopusmc
*Banned*
Answer the question. What specific rights do a DWI checkpoint violate?
Nolacopusmc
*Banned*
The right to property, primarily time.
And the pursuit of happiness.
And the whole probable cause thing.
Actually, the checkpoint could very well lead to a "pursuit of happiness"
Especially if you do not stop or try to avoid.Of course, time is not property, and probable cause has nothing to do with a DWI checkpoint.
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TomTerrific
Well-Known Member
I accept that I am taking a risk, but I am very low threat by virtue of my age and the fact that I don't drink.
I never triggered any special stuff crossing the U.S./Cdn border hundreds of times altho cars in front of me did.
Actually, the checkpoint could very well lead to a "pursuit of happiness"
Oh yeah, is it against the law to turn around or what?
I forgot the right to privacy, but I could care less about my privacy, I just don't want to sit in a line for 20 mins.
Nolacopusmc
*Banned*
Depending on where and how you turn around, you will most likely be violating a traffic law which will be PC for a traffic stop. Generally drunks make poor decisions like that.
Right to privacy? LOL. Wow!
That IS THE PROBLEM.
"Drive(ing) under the influence" is NOT a crime below a certain level.
Driving DRUNK is a crime.
Our State & Nation have had plenty opportunity to make driving after drinking illegal; AND this has been constantly refused.
The police should enforce the LAW; not the MADD Mothers' opinions !
leVieux
"Drive(ing) under the influence" is NOT a crime below a certain level.
Driving DRUNK is a crime.
Our State & Nation have had plenty opportunity to make driving after drinking illegal; AND this has been constantly refused.
The police should enforce the LAW; not the MADD Mothers' opinions !
leVieux
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charliepapa
Clandestine Sciuridae
serious question; since driving is a privilege and not a right, as has been debated here in recent history, does one waive whatever "rights" he or she may have under say, 4A?
All laws affect you in some way. Speed limits, mandatory insurance, theft, murder and rape. They all place limits on your freedom to do what you want to do. But that is not the same thing as violating your rights, as in an unconstitutional violation of specific areas of protection from government interference. Everything that affects your freedom of choice in some way is not a violation of your rights in a constitutional sense.
Nolacopusmc
*Banned*
You are absolutely incorrect. Your statement is 180 degrees WRONG! Read 14:98 and come back.
Nolacopusmc
*Banned*
But it is still fun for those ignorant of fact to spew that out like they know what they are talking about and can pound their chest as true patriots! Then they can put cool quotes from dead presidents in their sig lines and stuff.
It's a Terry Stop without probable cause. It violates my freedom of movement. Furthermore, it's a range of other infringements that vary from annoyance to police state hyperbole.
I don't mind the 5 or 10 DWI citations they may give out that night. I mind the however-many other people who committed no wrong, were not observed to have been under suspicion of any crime - and yet still were detained, and put through a delay of being able to go about their lives because M.A.D.D. convinces people that sacrifices rights is for "the greater good".
I can't say whether it is fact or not, but the rumor of it being probable cause to chase you down and pull you over if you are seen turning around or otherwise avoiding the checkpoint after coming upon it is disconcerting as well. No clue if that is a fact or not.
