Iraq Redux Part Deux v. ISIL

[Emperor]

HOPELESS! They(IA) is living off of what we left them. That won't last long.
The PM has been asleep living large sice the US set him up,
now his country is back on fire and he's wondering "How'd that happen"?

They are hopeless. Emotionally Distraught.....not yet angry enough to do something about it.

If you think about it, the IA is the EXTREME Minority of Iraqis who seem to care enough
to do something about their country. Now it seems, as even they are feeling it's not worth it.

Hopelessness ...

So our military guys didn't include fighting with honor before dying in disgrace in their training of them? And I get it, it seems hopeless. But you just come out when called, kneel down, and take a half a magazine of AK bullets to the head?

That's what is killing me. They have to know what their fates are if they surrender to these maniacs; no?

 

[Hitman]

I can't explain every facet of their mindsets
but I will say they indeed look and act, hopeless.

 

[Emperor]

I can't explain every facet of their mindsets
but I will say they indeed look and act, hopeless.

Hell, I would like ANYONE to try to explain it. Surrendering and hoping to be treated humanely as a POW or whatever this would be called is one thing. Knowing that they WILL eliminate you after they capture you motivates the soul a bit more, right?

This is a watershed moment for me. If I believe that these people are indeed more prepared to just be executed than to fight to the last breath (knowing they will be killed if they lose the fight), then I've had it with all of them over there.

And if I am right, these individuals have completely turned evolution and the human self preservation instinct on its ear.

 

[Hitman]

Knowing that they WILL eliminate you after they capture you motivates the soul a bit more, right?

Not when Heaven is better than Hell.
Hell is where they're living, Heaven is where they think they're going.

 

[Emperor]

Not when Heaven is better than Hell.
Hell is where they're living, Heaven is where they think they're going.

Okay! Let's say you are right! This^ should scare the **** out of EVERY American!

This is not rational thought! This in not a human trait of instinctive behavior. This makes them sub-human! IMHO.

 

[Hitman]

Okay! Let's say you are right! This^ should scare the **** out of EVERY American!

This is not rational thought! This in not a human trait of instinctive behavior. This makes them sub-human! IMHO.

Hmm for some reason, It doesn't seem as extreme as you're writing it .... lol

They are a hopeless bunch, living in constant fear.
If you think about it, most of them have NEVER known a day in their life
that their country wasn't on fire. It is literally, all they know.
(Like the IA we worked with in Fallujah. They fight in the street of Fallujah for 6-8 weeks.
Then they get a week of R&R back home. But where's home? Oh Tikrit? or Nasaria? or Basara? or Ramadi?
Places that are not exactly Vacation Resorts where they constantly face assassination for working with Americans.)
Not very R&R right?

Compare it to Louisiana. Say Louisiana is at war with itself.
The Wat started in Lake Charles and now you're fighting in Slidell
and when your R&R comes up, you get to go back home to baton Rouge.
A War torn city where some insurgents still roam looking to cap your ass for
aiding the opposing side of the war. You're Grocery Shopping with the Old Lady
thankful to not be on the Front Line for a minute and WHACK!

That's pretty much what the IA was facing at the highest of the War.
I could only imagine what it's like now, with no US Presence.

Anyway, hostility is all they know.
SOME go the way of wanting their country to be better.
The others go the way of Extreme Islamic Rule.

So those that want more Peace in their country
are War-Torn and weary. They are living in hell
whether on the Front Line or Back at home on so called REST.

The only peace they think they have left to see or gain
is to die and go to heaven.

So, in a sort of tired deep depression,
they kneel and accept their fate.

 

[Emperor]

Hmm for some reason, It doesn't seem as extreme as you're writing it .... lol

They are a hopeless bunch, living in constant fear.
If you think about it, most of them have NEVER known a day in their life
that their country wasn't on fire. It is literally, all they know.

SOME go the way of wanting their country to be better.
The others go the way of Extreme Islamic Rule.

So those that want more Peace in their country
are War-Torn and weary. They are living in hell.

The only peace they think they have left to see or gain
is to die and go to heaven.

So, in a sort of tired deep depression,
they kneel and accept their fate.

Were they all on mental Sabbatical while the US had the whole place secure for many years?

And am I wrong assuming that they had more freedoms to move around, more socializing? Less fear? A few more liberties?

All turned off like a light switch?

 

[oscar615]

Also seems as one of the ultimate selfish acts that a human can do. Along with other forms of suicide. They are leaving their families to live in that hell hole. Their wives will be raped and killed. Their children will grow up orphans in that crap. And be brainwashed into that evil lifestyle. That's what I see them doing by not fighting. Great job assholes.

Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.

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[Hitman]

I had to add something to the previous post you didn't see Emp. Sorry thought about it after.

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But pretty much yea it seems so.

With thousands of Americans and Armor rolling around
yea, there was a much more sense of EASE to go about
and do things. As long as you stayed FAR AWAY from Military Convoys.

They did have more peace sort of.

So yes, I'd say since more American Sons Blood was spilt,
than that of their own Sons Blood for their own State
they have been asleep at the wheel in and under-appreciated stooper.

Now they're looking around like "What the hell happen!?"

 

[oleheat]

It makes you wonder sometimes....What if Saddam Hussein hadn't decided to invade Kuwait going on 24 years ago......

 

[Hitman]

I think they need a Ruthless leader.
Just one that's content with staying in his own country

My Iraqi friend said life philosophy is pretty simple over there.
If I fear you, I'll respect you. If I don't, I won't.

Sadaam was a feared man.
That's the only way you can remain in power there for so long.

They only understand FEAR.

...in the end, just like us, they get what they deserve.

Don't like what's going on,
do something about it.

If not, kneel and accept your fate.

 

[Emperor]

I had to add something to the previous post you didn't see Emp. Sorry thought about it after.

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But pretty much yea it seems so.

With thousands of Americans and Armor rolling around
yea, there was a much more sense of EASE to go about
and do things. As long as you stayed FAR AWAY from Military Convoys.

They did have more peace sort of.

So yes, I'd say since more American Sons Blood was spilt,
than that of their own Sons Blood for their own State
they have been asleep at the wheel in and under-appreciated stooper.

Now they're looking around like "What the hell happen!?"

Makes sense! I just don't know if I feel sorry for them at this point. I'm starting to think of them as leeches! As long as the host (U.S.), keeps the blood flowing; they're ALL IN! "Free ****" leaves, they are mindless souls adrift in a sea of despair.

But coming back around; am I to believe that our military training of them taught them only to dig down just deep enough to stay alive in a firefight long enough to kneel before taking the bullet?

And if the answer is; I guess so. Then EVERY clear thinking American should take note.

 

[Leonidas]

I'm so sick of the middle east. F 'em all. Been hearing the same crap for 59 years.

Best thing for us is to keep both sides well armed. The more effort they expend in killing each other, the less time they have to screw with people outside their little self created ********.

Quarantine them just like any other pathogen, then cheer them on.

 

[Emperor]

I'm so sick of the middle east. F 'em all. Been hearing the same crap for 59 years.

Best thing for us is to keep both sides well armed. The more effort they expend in killing each other, the less time they have to screw with people outside their little self created ********.

It certainly appears they are happiest when they are toiling with slaughtering each other. It's unfortunate that some of those killjoys are no longer content with staying home.

 

[oleheat]

Jeez. The news from over there just keeps getting "better"....

ISIS just stole $425 million, Iraqi governor says, and became the ‘world’s richest terrorist group’

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/06/12/isis-just-stole-425-million-and-became-the-worlds-richest-terrorist-group/

 

[Hitman]

According to CNN, Iraqi government officials are pleading for the US Military to step in and conduct airstrikes against the insurgents.
Washington has acknowledged the situation as *extremely urgent,* but the scope of upcoming involvement remains unclear at this time.

Making A Stand

The rapid advances of the militants have seemingly been halted, at least for the time being. The Kurdish Peshmerga units, who have never been afraid to fight against Islamic military threats, first expressed disdain with the Iraqi government for not coordinating defensive operations with them during the recent fall of Mosul, as they felt it could have been avoided. Now they have sprung into action, seizing the oil rich city of Kirkuk. The move is more of an opportunistic economic gain for the Kurds, but will bring some stability, to the area. They have also pledged support to the government in battling the insurgents.

Meanwhile, the Shia heavy Iraqi Security Forces are drawing a line at Samarra. The city is of extreme religious importance to Shia Islam as it contains the al Askaria Mosque. ISIS completely encircled the city and threatened to destroy the mosque if they encountered resistance. The military met the challenge and has repelled at least two major attacks on the city.

http://www.funker530.com/as-iraq-crumbles-what-is-our-role/

 

[Emperor]

http://www.funker530.com/as-iraq-crumbles-what-is-our-role/

Now what, pretender? Come on; share your worldly wisdom with us all, you f'n genius! Good Grief!

Military moms and dads; don't let your kids go back! No boots on the ground!

I will support a massive bombing campaign only if we take over the oil; like we should have done last time! They NEVER paid anything back last trip.

You all watch! This will be another pre-war Afghanistan. We'll have Taliban in there; again, and Al-Queda in Iran.

 

[Hitman]

As reported, the Kurds are taking advantage of the situation;
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=756_1402597851


Check old dude at the end with the M4.

 

[MTregre]

We gave the people an opportunity... they need to take the wheel and steer their nation so let it burn. While they fight each other they focus less on the infidels.

 

[CEHollier]

I think they need a Ruthless leader.
Just one that's content with staying in his own country

My Iraqi friend said life philosophy is pretty simple over there.
If I fear you, I'll respect you. If I don't, I won't.

Sadaam was a feared man.
That's the only way you can remain in power there for so long.

They only understand FEAR.

...in the end, just like us, they get what they deserve.

Don't like what's going on,
do something about it.

If not, kneel and accept your fate.

My father was an engineer for ExxonMobil and worked in Indonesia. He lived there eight years and said the same thing you did. The Muslims respected brutality. Stomp a mud hole in them and they respected you. Show them kindness and they take it as weakness. That said if I knew I was going to die I could embrace it on my feet. Taking a few down with me.